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cross-posted from: https://kbin.social/m/firefox@lemmy.ml/t/476611

What if we got to easily choose our web browser, and didn’t have to rely on complex operating system settings to change the pre-installed default?

Do you keep the default browser on your Linux distro, or do you change it? If yes, why?

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[–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've never really understood this argument. The history of browsers shows that a browser choice screen isn't necessary. IE used to be dominant until it started sucking so much that people looked for alternatives. For a while that alternative was Firefox, then Chrome came along and people moved to that.

I think the problem for alternate browsers on PC is that all browsers are good enough at the things most people care about that they don't look at alternatives anymore. Most pre-built computers come with Chrome pre-installed and if it isn't, people seek it out on their own to download it. More savvy users know about Chrome's issues, but those aren't issues users really care about.

What does need to be addressed is how iOS and Windows either don't really allow you to use another browser, or make it difficult to switch. iOS needs to allow other rendering engines so alternative browsers aren't just a skin over Safari and Windows needs to stop with preventing users from changing the default browser for things like widgets.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The dominance of Internet Explorer had longstanding negative effect on the web. Even today there're industrial and internal banking applications that only run on IE, and nothing else. With Chromium being increasingly the only supported browser we soon won't have a choice which browser to use for certain websites anymore (e.g. Firefox).

IE's decline came to be because it was slow and didn't progress for many years, unlike Firefox at the time. With Google being interested in the continued development of the web this won't happen. Google pushes detrimental standards like "Web Environment Integrity API" today, they tried it with FLoC a while back. If Google succeeds in making the web more closed, another browser won't have a chance to catch up.

At this point we have only 3 mostly feature complete browser engines (Chromium's, Safari's and Firefox's). With Firefox declining it might soon only be 2 that work on all websites. It isn't good for an open standar if there're only few implementations.

[–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

With Chromium being increasingly the only supported browser we soon won't have a choice which browser to use for certain websites anymore (e.g. Firefox).

That’s where I disagree. I think that if we do get an internet where Chrome is the only option and it sucks, we’ll get another browser option. Firefox for example went through a few years of being a bad browser but it has gotten past those hurdles. People are lazy and change is slow, but once it starts I think it is unstoppable.