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[–] ioney@lemmy.world 111 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

“We are now stuck in a difficult position as we do not want the community to die”

Feels to me like they dug their own grave and now complain that the user's are problem.

What are they expecting after they remove moderators and remove the nsfw status? That the users keep posting? They aren't dumb and I could imagine that some or most people will probably stop posting there.

[–] Smokeydonuts@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

They think people are there because they love the site. They forgot they love the site because of the content and community. Reddit management dug their grave and jumped in it.

[–] Anders429@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

There is a whole set of users who apparently think the mods are in the wrong and that Reddit is right. Whether these are real users, and not armies of bots using ChatGPT to generate content, is up for debate. (But they're definitely bots lol)

[–] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The admins were also deleting comments. I had at least a few disappear without explanation or notice. Could be many more, I have no way of even knowing.

[–] nekat_emanresu@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Generic moderators on lemmy can also delete comments without us getting an alert or information about who did it. Hard to challenge things like this, but at least we can check the modlog. You would only know its deleted because you check the thread where you posted it(unless I'm mistaken).

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I very much fear there’s a lot of real people. Ones that act like asses and get banned from dozens of subs, then complain about mods being dictators or something. Others who think anyone can be a mod and they’re throwing a “”“temper tantrum”””. Others that think it’s just about losing apps with no ads.

It’s full of people who don’t understand, and don’t want to understand the extent of the problem, and I really doubt it’s all AI unless they’re actively giving prompts like “make a comment against the protest, but in the most entitled way possible”.

[–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honest question: Where are these people? I've never seen someone go to bat for Reddit the way you describe.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Some people I seen against the protests weren’t mods but users who like it’s futile and use the official app

For me I would agree with them but for me Apollo had a good thing going and all the lying and fun stuff whether it’s true or not is what drove me away

[–] Anders429@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've mostly seen it in r/ModCoord, where a lot of discussion around Reddit protests goes down. Lately I think the mods there have been trying to stop it, but it definitely shows. These are the ones I assume are bots, or at least some of them, judging by the way they argue.

The other random place I saw it was r/PokemonROMHacks when it reopened. People there were super critical of the mods, and I think it's mostly because they aren't users who normally use reddit and are only there to try to download and troubleshoot Pokemon hacks. To them, the mods making the sub private seemed incredibly selfish.

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure that quote was from the mods of that subreddit, not the reddit admins.

[–] stonedonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why? Why would you want something you love to continue to exist on a platform that sees you as nothing more than free labor.

People are wayyyy to attached to thier social media identies.. I'm like a rat on a ship.. any signs of trouble I'm overboard to the next vessel.

[–] Chekhovs_Gun@vlemmy.net 4 points 1 year ago

I understand the veterans subreddit. While I never went to that sub, I assume it's a good place for veterans to come and help and support each other.

But the others like Pics or TIHI etc...yeah I'm with you on that.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no, people are quite dumb. There's a lot still that are unaware or just don't care about the drama. I'd wager those people are the ones still on Reddit.

[–] graphite@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

How does that make them dumb? If anything, the fact that they're indifferent to it just means they have other priorities in life.

TPA users were like 3% of the site, dude.

[–] Popinguj@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

What are they expecting after they remove moderators and remove the nsfw status? That the users keep posting?

Seems like they're thinking exactly that. However, I expect many communities (especially niche communities) to revolt and start spamming unrelated content and straight up porn (or worse -- gore). The current mechanism is to replace the mods with supermods (aka the ones who moderate over 100 communities or something) but I wonder if they will be able to effectively moderate that shit without going private.

It's quite hard to guess what will damage reddit the most. I hope that many niche communities collapse and migrate, but the issue also lies in mainstream communities. One thing is NonCredibleDefence moving. Another thing is stuff like r/manga (which went for a blackout but didn't do much beside it).

Lemmy is good, I hope more people move here, but so far it's gonna be reliant on migrants from reddit and possibly twitter, which is not exactly a good plan