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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Pretty much Lemmy. I grew up in a communist civil war, hosing blood off my sidewalk was a weekly chore, the neighbors vanishing cause they pissed someone off and were labeled red. But yeah, Lemmy teens, you guys know all about it! /S

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Did you still use money to buy goods and services? Was your father able to do speak up at work? Change jobs? Go on vacations?

Just because something called itself communism didn't make it communism. The state owning everything is the opposite of communism. In extreme communism, there isn't even a damn state as we know it.

The people in the Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea do not live in a democracy nor a republic.

[–] mutter9355@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The ussr may not have been communist, but it was definitely the initial goal. The idea of a revolution that leads to a dictatorship of the proletariat is inherently flawed. You just end up replacing a corrupt government with another corrupt government.

[–] Album@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

The idea of a revolution that leads to a dictatorship of the proletariat is inherently flawed.

Not all Communists are Marxist-Lenninists or Stalinist... But obviously Lenin and Stalin were. Non-ML Communists would agree with you.

[–] doctorcrimson 2 points 1 year ago

Revolutions in general are only really good for replacing dictatorships and monarchies, it's kind of like re-rolling your government with a high chance of getting the worst kind, so you only use it when your government is already the worst kind. Usually, Power Vacuum's just get filled by whoever has the most military might.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So communism = god?

A fictional impossibility

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In many ways, yes. It is absolutely an ideal that is not compatible with current reality.

That's why anyone who's remotely realistic about it understands it's an end state of pushing for anarcho-socialistic policies, one that maybe cannot be achieved. Like saying, "Humanity will walk on the moon." when it's 1910. Conceivable? Kinda'. Possible? Hell no.

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

This certainly never happens with liberalism. Africa has never seen war since democracy and liberalism freed it obviously. And putin is the prime example of a communist I guess.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Erm pushes up glasses that wasn’t real communism because real communism works.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well it's the same for the free market really. On paper it's a nice idea, but in practice it makes the world miserable because people are, in general, fucking selfish assholes.

[–] Album@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lol ya right?!

The NSDAP was a real socialist party.

The Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is actually democratic and governed by the people.