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[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the US system is very broken in pricing, but my experience in terms of quality of care and waits is that the US is very good in that regard. That's why there's a lot of medical tourism there for more extreme conditions. I'm not defending the terrible pricing structure, but the healthcare system overall is not just bad.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, it is one of the most developed countries in the world, it would’ve been weird if it didn’t have a lot of specialized doctors.

Other than the price though, I’ve seen a lot of people complain about long waits and surgeries (even reconstructive ones) not being “approved” by insurance companies. It’s probably skewed since people only talk about the bad experiences they’ve had, but just the fact that they can do that seems crazy to me.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've never heard people complain about US waits to the level of Canada, or much of Europe. But yeah the insurance thing is that they will only cover treatments necessary to health (usually, but some others may be mandatory minimums now).

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can’t find the ones I saw before, but just searching “insurance” here brings results like this or this which are actual horror stories (both the ones in the posts and the ones in the comments).

It seems to me that queue issues are the same everywhere, with the difference that in the US you pay to wait. I’m glad your experience was different and I’m sure not everyone goes through that stuff, but the fact that it happens at all is pretty dystopic to me.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In small towns yes there are problems with waits sometimes of course, in my opinion this is largely due to anti-competitive laws like certificate of need and due to the strictest licensing requirements in the world. Also, urgent care waits usually aren't bad. As for whether a place is covered by your insurer, yeah that's pretty annoying, but there is a reason insurers don't cover certain things from certain providers- the insurer doesn't want to pay exhortationate fees just like an uninsured patient would have to so negotiate the cost with the providers ahead of time, and if they don't reach an agreement they can't pay for it.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t know what the standard is in the US, but to me 80k is definitely not “a small town”. Like, here in Italy we only have 66 cities with more people than that. Someone in an 80k city not finding a gastroenterologist to visit him in three months within 1 and a half hour of driving seems absurd to me.

If having private healthcare causes all these issues with insurance I think it’s really not worth it at this point. I don’t think the quality of the service would decline either since even in free healthcare countries doctors earn a lot and are a coveted job.