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[โ€“] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You know what is also harmful propaganda?
To shift the entire blame on some faceless companies or politicians, or "rich people", ignoring that you're part of the rich people on this planet. You all are the people those companies produce their shit for. You all are the people who vote the people responsible for their inaction into power. You all are who shun and ridicule all the green parties, politicians and activists.

You can continue to do that, but you only do it so you can continue to drive your cars, to continue to buy cheap products from countries like China, to continue to consume highly polluting animal produce on a daily basis, to continue to uphold your lavish lifestyle while actual poor people have fuck all (including barely any emissions).

Your type of comment is nothing but greenwashing too and I'd not be surprised if some leaks in a few years come out that will back up the fact that oil companies were pushing for that too.

[โ€“] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I agree with your comment partially: we need to change how we live, but in some occasions a large part of us are forced to a choice.

My point is that if we desire change we need to work it through grassroots movements, volunteering and being vocal about it, even if it's just a local thing.

Yes, we're richer than most and we're probably voting the wrong people, but don't blame the cows for being in a pen.

[โ€“] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

We're not going to change anything of this through grassroots movements. We need very big and very drastic changes at this stage. Like, look at a global co2 emissions chart. It goes up continuously, with a small sharp dip during covid. Remember what this did to our economies and how much it pissed off voters? However, this fall during that time would have to continue all the way to 2035 for us to actually meet our climate targets.

And your cows, pen or not, are contributing massively with their methane emissions. Cow & sheep produce are some of the worst climate killers.

This is one of the big problems. Even those who claim to be aware of the issue aren't actually. So now the only ones who are, are shunned & seen as "doomers" and whatnot. And that's ultimately why I've given up. People don't want to change, which means to me they'll have to suffer through all the consequences of it.