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I asked if people chose iPhone for the blue bubbles elsewhere a couple days ago, and while there was some good discourse on that post, the blue bubbles definitely also came up as a reason.

In my experience, when people find out my texts are green, they oftentimes would rather switch to a different platform altogether like Instagram or just not text at all.

Is this actually a deal-breaker in friendships out there?

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

It's been happening in high schools, to the point teens are bullied and pushed out of peer groups if they have Androids. It's frankly disgusting that apple willingly creates this division to profit off teenagers bullying each other, and they don't get called out for it enough.

But in the larger picture, it's definitely going to be more common among the young, because iPhones themselves are ubiquitous among the younger. It's something the tech space is slowly starting realize: Apple has almost total market dominance among the rising demographic, and this has led to increasing tech illiteracy due to the way Apple designs its software, and inability/refusal to learn anything else. That is a huge problem for the tech industry when the only thing they can do to find customers is dumb their software down to appeal to people that don't know how to use anything other than iOS

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Perhaps in the US but it's not so pronounced elsewhere. I think I only know one person with an iPhone.

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's still about 30% here in Germany. It is rising though. And I think this is because of "clever" marketing. The highschools here in Germany started forcing parents to buy Ipads for their children a couple of years ago. Children with low income parents get it from the city for free. Nominally it is, because it is "easier to maintain", but I honestly really doubt this.

[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah easier to maintain lmao. You mean to spy on their students.

These schools are using iPads in place of computer labs. I’m old enough to have actually managed a computer lab, and I can tell you that a fleet of managed iPads is way easier to maintain than a computer lab.

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But you don't understand! The USA is the entire world! Everybody else in the world is just like Americans or wants to be!🙄

I know five people with iPhones here. I interact with almost three orders of magnitude more people than five...

[–] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You interact with 5000 people?

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

About that, yes. Not in-depth and not each day, obviously, but I have quite a sizable crowd I deal with on a regular basis. Comes from having a lot of former students I keep in touch with.

[–] 4am@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

If you think that the reason Apple makes the bubbles different colors is “to profit of teen bullying” then I think perhaps you might want to go back to reddit or Twitter.

What a ridiculous statement.

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Everyone 30 and under at my office prefers Macs, to the point of bringing in their own machines to do 90% of their work and falling back to the Windows laptops issued by IT for the remainder.

[–] ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

...I feel like bringing personal machines to work in order to do work is causing chaos with IT and network security

[–] 4am@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

BYOD has been a huge shift in corporate IT over the last 10-15 years; mostly because if people bring their own gear, you don’t have to lease it.

How do you think Citrix is still in business?

[–] Anomalous_Llama@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

They could be accessing virtual workspaces using a company VPN client. Or perhaps logging into a Citrix Receiver Workspace. Could probably access a VDI environment as well. 2FA with a work cell etc

Lots of ways for personal devices to be used in the work setting. Would I recommend it or do it myself? Nah. But it can be done.

[–] fluke@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

To be fair, as a work machine, I far prefer macs. And there's a reason why Windows has been implementing steadily more and more MacOS features into their OS over time.

For a personal machine I'd rather Windows.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

100%

I’m a software developer. MacOS is my choice for corporate dev (cause Linux isn’t an option) because it’s Unix based and has a working command line. Windows causes so many problems around dependency installs and frameworks.

Windows is still on my home machines, but they’re edging closer to going linux too.

[–] Anomalous_Llama@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

This is hilarious to me because I’m the exact opposite.

Windows for work (and gaming) MacOS or iPadOS for personal use for me.

[–] JudgeHolden@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Windows is emphatically not the same thing as Android. They're two entirely different OS's. No doubt you know this, it just seems like you momentarily lost the plot and made it about Windows vs Mac, when what we're really talking about is iOS vs Android.

[–] corb3t@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh c'mon now, Apple and iOS apps have too good of a user experience? That's the issue? You call it "dumbing down software", I call it implementing user experience research and design.