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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605

A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.

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[–] PepperDust@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have mixed feelings on abortion, but spying on and snitching on people you disagree with is too far

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly don’t get this stance. If you believe abortion is killing a human, then you treat it like murder. If you believe it isn’t killing a human, because it really isn’t, then it’s just an inconsequential medical procedure that no one should care about.

[–] PepperDust@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never said abortion is murder, i just said i do not know what to think of abortions

[–] Beetschnapps@universeodon.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@PepperDust @pulaskiwasright that’s the fucked up part. As a man you have the benefit of not needing to know what to think. Women don’t get that luxury. Yet every man’s opinion gets to dictate women’s legality.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s how democracy works. Every man has just as much power over whether or not abortion should be legal as every woman has power over whether or not men have to register for the draft.

[–] Beetschnapps@universeodon.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@pulaskiwasright wow pointing out one problem to justify another… all while avoiding the consequences of either. bravo

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I’m pointing out that in a democracy, people really do make laws for things that they don’t do. It couldn’t work any other way.

[–] glacier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There hasn't been a draft since the 1970s. It's hardly an issue anymore. Yet women have been actually dying and suffering because of a lack of access to life saving medical care since Roe was overturned last year.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Absolutely correct. My point though is that saying “men don’t get to have an opinion” is a silly, and unproductive argument in favor of what should he abortion rights. Representative democracy wouldn’t function at all if no one was allowed to have an opinion on things that they don’t do directly and not let those opinions influence how they vote. That’s a silly argument.