For the past few weeks, I've been making an effort to cross-post more, in order to make sure that communities that I'm interested in have some content and attention. I've been primarily focused on keeping up a steady stream of posts to !teen_loli, but a lot of those also fit in on !rapehentai and !incest_hentai, and occasionally !bdsm_hentai_and_art or !bluearchive. I tend to stick to just posting to the two most relevant communities for any given post, though.
I also created and have been posting to !dickgirl_hentai, but I tend to refrain from cross-posting those elsewhere. I get the feeling that maybe people don't want to see those posts, even if their fetishes are otherwise involved?
It feels like I'm creating/following a weird double-standard though. For rape/incest/etc content, I just tag the fetish in the title so that those that don't want to see it can avoid clicking. I don't think of trans women as a fetish though, so it feels weird to warn about them? Additionally, the original creator of !incest_hentai designated it as trans-inclusive (and I've done the same with !teen_loli), so it's extra-weird to avoid cross-posting there, which is what got me thinking about this in the first place. What do?
As an aside, the name of !dickgirl_hentai has also been bothering me. I originally went with that because it's what booru sites typically use to differentiate transgirl futanari from intersex. It feels kind of offensive though? Is there a better name that would still get the point across? Am I overthinking this?
This is going to be a wall of text because I have a lot to say!
For starters, would you mind if I cross-post this to !lgbt@burggit.moe, tweaked a bit to be SFW? I think part of this discussion would have value there.
I am transfemme and have complicated feelings on this. I'll probably end up giving you more questions than answers, but I'm glad you made this post because I think it is a worthwhile discussion to have. I'm going to fix some nonstandard terminology here so that reading this post is not tedious: FPWP = Feminine presenting with a penis, FPPWP = Feminine presenting person/people with a penis.
I identified three main points in your post:
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I don't really have anything interesting to say about the first item. Personally, in the rare event that I am browsing Burggit with NSFW content enabled, I like seeing FPWP content regardless of the community (who doesn't like seeing content they can identify the most with?). If there aren't rules against it, I say go for it and see what happens. Worst case is you get told off and the rules are clarified.
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For the second item, my personal take is that it doesn't matter, as I use the tampermonkey script to auto-expand images (and I enjoy the content anyway). Let's suppose that there is someone out there that absolutely abhors FPWP content and could filter out posts with an appropriate tag, for the sake of argument. I could see why they would benefit from tagging these posts. We have to balance that against the interesting point you made: is tagging FPWP content fetishizing FPPWP? That's a tough question to answer so I'll just present my thoughts on all sides.
I have mostly talked myself into the third point above, though there are reasonable people who take issue with Asian fetishization in pornography, I do not see it as such a big issue. There is no other way to categorify it and people should not feel ashamed for their attractions if nobody is being harmed.
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Lastly, what is inclusive terminology we can use for FPWP content? As a disclaimer, I use what is perhaps aggressive language here, but I am in no way attacking you personally. Any usage of "you" as follows refers not literally to you, but rather a hypothetical person (English sucks: 2nd person singular impersonal).
CW, transphobic slurs
I really super hate terms like "dick-girl," "trap," "tranny," "futa," (this last one mostly because it seems to equivocate real people with hentai) and I know many trans women who take exception to "t-girl," even. Some of those are slurs, others are borderline. I know very few transgender women who ever like seeing these terms, in sexual contexts or otherwise. The most favorable responses to these terms I've seen by transgender women have mostly been "meh, whatever, I don't care": not exactly a ringing endorsement. The only people I see defending them are usually cisgender people who just find it convenient to continue using language they've been using and are annoyed that others are trying to make them "feel bad" for doing so. I don't think that's a very reasonable stance to take. If the people you are describing with these terms are overwhelmingly telling you to stop, then just stop. Even if it is inconvenient, it really would not take much effort.So that begs the question: what is better terminology? Well, FPWP is essentially perfect as far as using standard inclusive language goes, but it is not at all recognizable to those who don't know it and thus essentially worthless as a quick-reference term (such as for tags). Trans-girl/trans-woman is recognizable, but also exclusive of trans women who have undergone bottom surgery (and intersex people AFAB and any other person who might present feminine and have a penis). Despite that, I think this is a good option for a compromise between recognizability and inclusivity. Perhaps something like fem-penis could work: we do have a community named this way and it is practically the same as FPWP, so I think that is my favorite option so far. Maybe others have better recommendations?
Thanks for coming to my TED talk. Please feel free to share your thoughts on what I have to say, even if you are not yourself trans or queer in any way. Also, something to keep in mind is that I do not frequent booru or similar sites, so I don't have much to say RE: that culture. I don't really see this as a problem because a lot of those sites have some pretty disturbing cultural behaviors anyway.
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The description that I have in the sidebar of !dickgirl_hentai is
So maybe just “girlswithdicks_hentai” for a new community name?
Doesn’t really work as general terminology though, at least if we want something shorthand. I’ve been using “futa” in post titles. Playing around with a recent one:
These all feel varying degrees of awkward. I think I’d likely just try to come up with an entirely different title if I’m trying to avoid using “futa”.
Mousepad:
If you like that new community name, I find it reasonable!
I feel I should clarify: To describe art, if the character being described is a futa, I have no problem calling them that. My issue with the term is when it is used to:
So I think the current post title is completely fine (assuming 2 does not apply; I do not recognize the character if so). Contrast this with terms like “trap,” which I would prefer to never see in any context, for the reason I mentioned in my reply to PB’s comment. Better terms for that do exist (femboy seems fine)!
Thanks again for making this post. It’s something I’ve been thinking about for a while, but I didn’t want to bring it up myself for fear of being “annoying,” or similar.
@Burger@burggit.moe Is it possible to change community names from the administrative side without too much hassle (and without breaking federation)? Or should I just create a new community and signpost it?
I can more than easily do it via manually going into the DB and changing the name. But I'm almost certain that it will break federation for this community. Hopefully someone else will chime in who knows more about activitypub than I do who can set the record straight.
Figured that might be the case. I'll go with the signpost option tomorrow night if nothing new comes up.
I thought on it more. What would likely happen is that while the community name would be updated here, on other instances it won't be. Every instance has the community names stored in their local DB and there's a flag that says whether the community is remote or local. I don't think changing it will work at all, I'm afraid. There'd need to be some "message" that this instance sends out to other instances to update the name, and manually changing it through the DB definitely won't trigger it.