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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Until you realize that many orgs have software that only works on windows.

Its not a great situation

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Storage is super cheap these days. Just buy an extra hard drive for Windows and boot into that on the rare occasion you truly need to use Windows. Or just use a VM.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could just use a VM or put on the same disk. There is no reason to spend extra money

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Windows has a bad habit of fucking up Linux boot partitions when it updates, so proceed with caution if you decide to keep them on one disk.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's great for you. Doesn't mean the issue doesn't exist, though.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve worked as a SWE at Facebook, Google, and LinkedIn, and none of the devs I worked with used Windows. Everyone either used Mac or Linux. It’s just a matter of time before the dev world bleeds out into the consumer world.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We’re a Mac shop here, but almost everyone I know still runs windows on their desktops. The few who don’t are on MacBooks and don’t have desktops.

Linux is still a minority, even among developers

Edit: I should probably clarify I mean personal desktops, not work provided.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At LinkedIn everyone had a Linux desktop that matched the server environment. Very few people actually coded on their desktop though. Most of us used a MacBook then either tested on the desktop or tested on a dev server.

At Google, almost everyone used a MacBook or their Goobuntu desktop (Google’s custom version of Ubuntu). Basically everyone would remote into their desktop to write code. Some people used Windows and some used Chromebooks.

At Facebook, most used MacBooks, the rest were pretty evenly divided between Windows and Linux (on Thinkpads). Everyone had a Linux dev server in one of the data centers to test on.

At every one of these places, the production environment is 100% Linux, so eventually, everyone had to test their code on Linux (except mobile or desktop app developers).

Again, I never worked with anyone who used Windows, but I knew there were some people who did, cause they would stick out.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Should probably clarify that I meant their home PCs, not work provided ones. Our dev is all done on Mac and then we have remote Linux dev environments for testing if needed.

Windows for development is asinine, can definitely agree there. But for home computing it still isn’t taking over.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Corporations have access to a version of windows that doesn’t have telemetry, advertisements or bloatware. Its called Enterprise Edition.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cost wasn’t mentioned in the original scope. OP was saying he hates the telemetry, ads, etc. and then you stated that companies have software that needs windows to run, to which I stated that there is a version that doesn’t have OPs concerns and runs custom apps that companies use.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

I was actually speaking from personal experience but I see your point