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I asked if people chose iPhone for the blue bubbles elsewhere a couple days ago, and while there was some good discourse on that post, the blue bubbles definitely also came up as a reason.

In my experience, when people find out my texts are green, they oftentimes would rather switch to a different platform altogether like Instagram or just not text at all.

Is this actually a deal-breaker in friendships out there?

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Is this actually a deal-breaker in friendships out there?

I think this is one of the most ridiculous, cringe-worthy things I have read in a long ass time.

I also have to say that I have no idea how anyone puts up with iphones. I have both and the iphone experience from a UI perspective is just awful. Yeah, the screen is nice, the battery life is good, the camera is excellent, but holy crap is this phone infuriating to use. You can get Android phones with just as nice hardware, but then you don't need to deal with that terrible iOS user interface. How is this such a popular device, I will never understand it.

Also, why the FUCK is the iphone so goddamn heavy?! It is smaller than my Samsung and noticeably heavier in my pocket. Just everything about this device is annoying.

[–] FeatherConstrictor@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To be fair, I've heard people say the same thing about android. That the interface is infuriating to use. I think once one gets accustomed to one, the other is foreign enough to be annoying.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can customize an Android device to more mimic an iPhone. You can't do the opposite. This one example highlights the massive differences between the phones.

Absolutely. I'm an android user and prefer android over iOS. But customizability isn't something everyone values.

[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem with iPhones is that they are not flexible. Android devices can be customized (though it's getting harder to do so effectively now) so they look, feel, and function differently. Meanwhile iPhones really feel like Apple has some incentive to make sure that you can only do exactly what they say you can do, which is not as much.

Which appeals to users who may accidentally change something or want something to be good and easy right out the gate. I wouldn't recommend an android to someone very technically incompetent, and I prefer android to iOS any day

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I think they're both infuriating. Especially when both try to copy each other. Phone UI designers must have all died out in some catastrophe in the early 2010's.

[–] fross@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My s23 ultra totally smokes iphones on camera quality, battery life, and screen. UI is of course subjective and people like what they're used to.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree, but I think the problem for Android comes from the fact that since Google never set minimum hardware requirements early on, any Chinesium company could throw together ultra crappy components and say they have an Android device. So a lot of early low-spec phones were indeed really shit.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Imo the problem was rather that early Android was hastily thrown together shit. Phone makers just made it worse with unoptimised drivers and bloatware.

[–] improvisedbuttplug@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Compare using a 5 year old galaxy to a 5 year old iPhone tho. Hard to beat the iPhone longevity and software support

[–] keyez@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Battery is definitely a longevity concern on iPhones. Most people I know with iPhones are tethered to a charger when traveling or camping and other heavy use days.

[–] improvisedbuttplug@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But I mean also, despite right to repair concerns, apple has a large network of first party service centers that will do battery replacement for old phones at a pretty reasonable price.

Plus with modern fast charging, it never feels like much of an issue. I get basically all day battery from a 20 minute charge during my morning coffee.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wasn't Apple the one that kickstarted the trend of non-replaceable batteries? And glued-in batteries that you need to take the whole phone apart? And also the trend of serialising batteries to phone so that you can only use 1st party ones and they'll scream error messages at you?

Before the stinking iPhone, you could buy a new battery for 20€$£ and swap it in 20 seconds. Apple isn't the good guys for now charging you who knows how much for a service that's designed to get you to buy a new phone.

[–] improvisedbuttplug@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No corporation is the “good guy”

Every product has trade offs and it all depends on what you personally value in your device

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

True, so let's not praise them for creating a problem and selling you the solution.

[–] improvisedbuttplug@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Despite that, people typically keep their iPhones much longer than they keep android phones. 3 years of software support is considered good for androids. iPhones get 6

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

People keep saying that, but when I look around, I mostly see either 5-years old 2nd hand phones with all kinds of cracked screens, or 200€ Samsungs that you get with a 15€ contract.

I could theorise that people keep Iphones longer because they cost a grand, while you can get a perfectly serviceable Android for 200. Except that's not what I'm seeing either. Most people who buy new iphones are shallow shampoo fanatics who need to have the latest bling, and shell our 1600 every year for a new X Pro Max Ultra Gold Fart. And the "old" one than goes to someone else for 1/3 the price, who might indeed keep it for 5 years. But the same goes with Android too anyway.

Basically I wouldn't be surprised if all that was another myth Apple keeps in circulation to make themselves look better. Just like that iMessage nonsense.

[–] improvisedbuttplug@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weirdly, the limitations of my iPhone are part of what makes it good for me. Because it lacks a lot of “power user” features like split screen multitasking, I actually end up using it less.

I appreciate that using my phone is frustrating sometimes because I put it away faster. Big plus for my adhd ass.

My other reason is the comparative privacy benefit of apple services vs google services. Apple equivalents of google things work a little less well but they harvest a lot less personal data.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the limitations of my iPhone are part of what makes it good for me

Dude, you understand that hearing this as an outsider, this reads exactly like what (no offense) brainwashed people would say, right? Again, no disrespect, but admitting that a device is more limited and somehow spinning it to be a positive is not really a positive to an outside observer. That just sounds like marketing spin.

People can use whatever the heck they want, but seeing as how I have both devices of a similar age (so one isn't an ancient iPhone versus a brand new high end Android, or vice versa), it aggravates the hell out of me every time I have to pick up the iPhone.

Note the part where I said “for me”.

I’ve had plenty of different smartphones over the last 15 years. Most have been android.

I happen to currently be very happy with my iPhone.

[–] dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To each their own. But IMO, iPhones are nice. The navigation via swiping is cool. The Android navigation is killing me. That's a reason I'm considering going back to iPhone. I mean the iPhone just has nicer swipe animation. And this is coming from someone that had android for a long time prior to iPhone 7.

However, the iPhone's texting is done through Apple's own network. Which is good or bad depending how you look at it. So while the color is not the issue for me, the color tells me if it's going through network provider or through Apple's own network.

I also like that iPhone has a visual voicemail for free. It also goes through Apple's network. Again, this is good or bad depending how you look at it.

Finally, I'm currently using an Android phone. I just don't like Apple's removal of fingerprint sensor. Miss the days where we had tons of phones to select from each with their own unique features.

I have a Samsung and I have amazing swipe gestures and great customizability for what I want each one to do. I have 12 total swipe gestures (up, in, down, long or short, from left or right side) that I can set to a whole slew of actions. It's been really amazing! If you're on a Samsung I recommend you check out the "One Hand Operations +" application (I believe it's on the Galaxy store, not the play store) along with maybe a different launcher if you want more visual customization. It's what really boosted my experience of this phone.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally I find the OS of android super infuriating. IOS just works out of the box the same way it has for 10+ years. Spent 10 minutes trying to figure out where apps were stored on android and then decided I’m happier with iOS.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

where apps were stored on android

You simply swipe UP. Done and done.