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[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Such a bike-only city just have to build heated underground tunnels for biking. If a New York subway style bike highway isn't good enough., since wind chill and all that, instead build a city-wide roof over the first floor of all the buildings in the city to basically make that first floor a basement.

This is obviously an extreme answer, but if a city wanted to be bike-only, the only barrier is cost.

no city wants to do that, but they could. Stick Solar panels on the first floor roof and do the solar freaking roadways idea to heat up the tiles and avoid plowing (without needing to make them car-proof.)

I got myself all excited, I wish this was more than a modern fantasy.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

do the solar freaking roadways idea to heat up the tiles and avoid plowing (without needing to make them car-proof.)

The problem with this idea is that melting snow takes a ridiculous amount of energy. (and also no one wants to feel banished underground)

Again, these problems have already been solved. Compress the snow on bike paths, and make a reliable public transport system for when its really too cold.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cost is a pretty huge barrier. Money doesn't grow on trees.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Bike lanes cost less than car lanes. Bike-path-sized snowplows probably cost less than car-lane-sized ones, too.

Bike infrastructure only seems unaffordable for those who dishonestly see it as an add-on on top of car infrastructure, rather than correctly as a replacement for (some of) it.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Bike infrastructure only seems unaffordable for those who dishonestly see it as an add-on on top of car infrastructure, rather than correctly as a replacement for (some of) it.

Well sure, bike infrastructure is cheap if you take a road for cars, ban all cars, and declare it bike only.

But that's so ridiculous it's not worth mentioning.