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[–] Staccato@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)

EVs start their life with a higher environmental burden than ICE vehicles, but the math comes out so that the burden becomes lower after between 15k-20k miles.

By the end of life of an EV, they are more eco friendly than an ICE vehicle of similar build.

[–] solivine@sopuli.xyz 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If that's true then I've been fed some misinformation, could you provide a link/source verifying this?

[–] Tnaeriv@sopuli.xyz 7 points 11 months ago

I found this article by the European Environment Agency. There's also the Green NCAP website where you can check the environmental impact of different vehicles over their entire lifetime.

[–] drewdarko@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also, “Environmental burden” and “eco friendly” are generic buzzwords used to lump other environmental issues like micro plastics or habitat destruction in with the reduction of green house gases.

I wonder how the math would work out when it is strictly about reduction of greenhouse gases and factors unrelated to our dependency on fossil fuels are not skewing the results.

[–] Staccato@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Good point. I was referring to analyses I read that were calculating the carbon footprint specifically. Apologies for using vague language.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The number of miles varies a lot depending on the source of electricity but it goes up to 50k if it's from burning coal IIRC

[–] Staccato@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Which, over the lifetime of the car, is still a win environmentally. Modern cars are estimated to last for 200k miles, and electric vehicles are believed capable of enduring for 300k miles (although most models are too new to really prove that with data).