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It's really not the fault of any individual. Well okay yes it is, but it's like 200 individuals at the very upper echelons of society.
Are we gonna ignore that literally everyone voted for Reagan in the 80s?
Except based Minnesota? Weird.
Wow. This looks like USSR, but worse
No more than we will never forget that Trump is the president that millenials voted for.
At least if we’re using ‘generational blame’ logic: good luck on explaining how you let trump in to the future generations.
“Trump lost the popular vote, kids. The Electoral College allows for small states to have oversized impacts on presidential elections.”
There you go.
Nope. That only convinces yourself. As far as the rest of the world will see He still got into power cuz you didn’t vote against him. Therefore you’re compliant. That’s all we see. Enjoy the taste of crow. For you get to live with that one til you die.
I’m ok with that. Are you?
Coulda fooled me. Doesn’t sound like you are comfortable with being called a hypocrite or you wouldn’t be here.
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Voting for Trump was highly correlated with age. Every age group under 40 had over 50% support for Clinton; every age group above had a plurality voting for Trump.
In the 1980 election, though, the only age range that voted more for Carter than Reagan was 18-24 year olds.
And unlike Trump, Reagan convincingly won the popular vote - he got 8 million more votes than Carter. Trump lost the popular vote.
Those two elections aren't really comparable. Reagan won in a landslide; Trump barely sqeaked by because he barely won a few key swing states - in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, he won by less than 1% of the vote.
Which is a false affirming argument for far too long that genZ are crutching at. Boomers were born 1946 so they could only start voting 1966 during Lyndon Baines Johnson a democrat . So Whatever your grandma voted for back in 1960 doesn’t matter. There were many voters and presidents since 1960. Besides all that : Industrial Revolution started well before that in the 1700s.
Shell is currently releasing pure death into the air and water (biggest oil spill 2010 - Barack Obama was a voted in president at this time ) and nestle charges for water use (flint water disaster 2014 - - Barack Obama was a voted in president at this time) baby formula was 1974 - (Richard Nixon ) and dupont released c8 into water supply in 1984. - (Ronald Reagan).
And any of this could have been reversed any time in the past 60 years (even the last 15). The boomers clearly weren’t the sole doomers of this planet. Heck, they aren’t even the generation who invented it. The amount of damage they could have done is no more effective than anyone else who came after them clambering for the $ and convenience build on a society catered to exactly that.
So, are we going to do something about that? Did we just whoopsi 200 bad people in the upper echelons of society? I think some systemic analysis is needed.
It's the fault of many individuals, voting and acting together.
In the US, when you look at the end use of e.g. electricity, 29% of emissions are due to transportation, 30% are industrial, 11% is agriculture, and the other 30% is from commercial and residential.
Over 50% of transportation emissions are cars, SUVs, minivans and pickups. Why? Because the US suburbanized and we bulldozed cities to build wide roads and large parking lots.
That's partially due to people like Robert Moses, and partially due to things like white flight, Euclidean zoning, single family zoning, etc. The greatest generation, the silent generation and boomers have repeatedly voted for and implemented local NIMBY policies that have resulted in car centric suburban sprawl that's terrible for the planet.
Yes, but they had no information about the negative aspects of those policies due to marketing and outright lies they were exposed to from propaganda, published by those 200 [hyperbole] people who were actually responsible.