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[–] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

with essentially illiterate (and i mean this with all due respect) people from a completely different culture who are not prepared to do anything remotely useful for at least 10 years, probably more.

You're talking shit. Immigrants make up 20% of the NHS in the UK, and loads also work in the care sector, those are vital jobs and you have to be literate. Most immigrants I've met speak better English than the local toe rags.

Those kids will behave exactly like the local population. They will go to University, they will be highly qualified, they will be socially adapted to the place, culture and language and, they will also not have kids, just like the local. So which problem did these migrants solve then ?

The lack of young workers?

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are deliberately talking over them. They’re clearly not claiming that all migrants are illiterate or uneducated or ill-prepared for work in Europe. They’re arguing that many are, and those migrants exacerbate our problems. They certainly don’t solve them.

[–] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Define many. What percentage are illiterate?

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It depends on the nation. The UN collects data. Afghanistan is 62.7% illiterate, for example. Further, Almost all refugees to Denmark have zero Danish language reading and writing skills. They must learn all of these. Slightly more (but shockingly few) have any English reading and writing skills.

Surely it isn't surprising to you that refugees have limited European language skills?

[–] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

refugee /ˌrɛfjʊˈdʒiː/ noun

a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.

Emigrating is a choice. Fleeing because you helped translate is not.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That definition of a refugee is perfectly compatible with the definition of a an immigrant. As per the definition, all refugees are immigrants. Not all immigrants are refugees.