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[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 92 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Legally, no. You cannot use an NDA to force someone to help you cover your a crime. That’s illegal.

What it might do is get people to come forward, because the threat of the NDA was perceived as real.

Most noncompete agreements are also illegal and unenforceable but if people follow them without seeking advice, they’re doing what the employer intended them to do.

When I had to sign a non-compete as a requirement to accept a job I thought I wanted, my lawyer’s advice was to just sign it because it was completely unenforceable. He said to basically sign it and forget about it.

I’ve never understood how a Trump NDA as something agreed to by members of the US government would have any teeth whatsoever. Any NDA I signed as an employee of the government was between me and the government. I couldn’t imagine my manager making me sign one with him personally.

[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You cannot use an NDA to force someone to help you cover your a crime. That’s illegal.

So there's a 0% chance that Trump would ever do something like that.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

The thing is that the people who make you sign the agreement want you to think it’s enforceable. It simply isn’t.

There was a case where the big Silicon Valley companies entered into a mutual agreement to not only have their employees sign non-competes, but colluded to not hire each other’s employees. They were sued and lost, and everyone working for them at the time got a check.

I’ve signed the NDAs that will get you an orange jumpsuit if you break them. Those are the ones written by places like the DoD. Some Trump lawyer saying you must cover up a crime because of a personal NDA you signed with him as President would have absolutely zero effect on my testifying, because it has no legal basis for enforcement.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not up to Trump. It's up to the court.

[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you seriously think he would consult with a court before making one of his employees sign an NDA?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's irrelevant? The court will override any NDA you may have signed if you're a witness to a crime.

[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's not how NDAs work. You make your employees sign them and then they're afraid to do or say anything that might provoke you into suing them, regardless of whether it'll even hold up in court. It's all about intimidation.

[–] phar@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I think you are missing the other person's point...

[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

But you can't do a crime to cover the crimes you're already criming!