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A Universal Basic Income Is Being Considered by Canada's Government (www.vice.com)

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[-] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago

Yes.

This is the thing people don't understand about a ubi.

I had a coworker who's wife was a... Case manager? For welfare. Her whole job was determining whether or not people were lying/exaggerating about various elements of their claim.

First of all, government union paper pushers make decent money. There was an entire office full of people that covered cases in their region only.

Second, it's a soul sucking job. Her primary assumption was that everyone was cheating and lying and she needed to minimize everyone's payout.

UBI solves both of those things and by plugging it directly into the tax system people can be free to try to earn a better living, which studies have shown most people want when they are given a UBI.

Increased productivity, increased employment, increased entrepreneurship, increased mental health outcomes, there is literally no downside except for needing to tax the rich.

[-] wombatula@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago

literally no downside except for needing to tax the rich

So literally no downside at all then?

[-] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

Can't eat them and tax them at the same time 😞

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago

There are downsides.

Some people require more income to stay alive than others. Think of people with decreased mental or physical capabilities.

Those would loose a big chunk, which need to be subsidised somehow.

But the upsides outweigh the downsides.

[-] wombatula@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Not necessarily, that depends on how it shakes down.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 4 points 8 months ago

It's a political downside, because anything involving taxes will turn some people against it.

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