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SEO has essentially destroyed search engines, what are some very useful websites that you might not get given by Google?

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[–] Tuggles@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (5 children)

So, you can do this with gmail already. What's your pitch on why someone should use Port87 instead of Gmail (besides the obvious Google is evil, etc.)?

[–] atoro@lemmy.ml 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A lot of services have stopped accepting + addresses as valid, or even stripping them before saving. So at least for a while, - addresses could be more useful

[–] oleorun@real.lemmy.fan 6 points 9 months ago

For nerds like us there's a cool article at https://people.cs.rutgers.edu/~watrous/plus-signs-in-email-addresses.html that covers this in detail.

[–] albert@lemmy.sysctl.io 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think outlook also accepts it.

Personally I just bought a domain and have a catch all that redirects everything to my email.

[–] squidspinachfootball@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Was that hard to setup? Do you need to pay for server hosting or anything? That sounds pretty useful.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

If all you want is to receive emails and forward them to another email (like Gmail), it's straightforward and free. If you want to send using your domain, you usually have to pay someone or spend a bunch of time learning how to set up a mail server on your own and how to get your mails out of people's spam box. Or you have to find an easy-to-use workaround (I know there is one for Gmail but it's a bit annoying to set up and use)

Here are the steps to setting up a catch-all using Cloudflare:

  1. Get a domain (they are actually pretty cheap)
  2. Add the domain to Cloudflare. (If you bought the domain from Cloudflare, this is already done. And Cloudflare is among the cheapest places to buy domains so I recommend it.)
  3. Open the site in the Cloudflare web dashboard and open the tab called "email"
  4. Add a destination email and enable catch-all.
[–] rappo@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

you can also just buy your own domain and set it up your gmail/whatever as the catchall, then use appname@mydomain.com

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Last I saw, Google charges for this. More than this guy's service.

Also, it seems like his service is about automatically having username-category email addresses. Definitely not hard to replicate, but it circumvents the common blocking of plus-signs in email addresses you see nowadays. And while not hard, it's a bit less trivial to catch any old email with a dash in it and "magically" convert it to a category in the main inbox.

[–] rappo@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Google doesn't even factor into this. Go to your registrar of choice (namecheap, etc), buy a domain, and setup that domain to forward all emails to your email address.

So if you have abraxas@gmail.com and you just bought abraxas.me, in namecheap you can setup *@abraxas.me to go to your gmail account, and then sign up for sites using whatever@abraxas.me you want. There's no + or - involved, use any word you want. Signing up for lemmy.world? lemmyworld@abraxas.me will go right to your gmail (or whatever email you use)

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Fair point. That is free. I guess it would boil down to what the mail categorization would look like in this guy's service. I will say I thought it was odd that it isn't just mail middleware with the guy struggling with having to build his IMAP in node.js.

[–] squidspinachfootball@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are you able to differentiate between emails as they come in? E.g., seeing an email was sent to lemmyworld@abraxas.me vs spammynewsletter@abracas.me?

[–] rappo@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

indeed. It comes in as reallyshadywebsite@squidspinachfootball.xyz, so not only can you easily filter/label them, but you can immediately tell who had a security breach and/or sold your email.

[–] kaffeeringe@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago

It's not Google. I'm sold.

[–] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is trivial to strip +xyz from all of the email addresses in a list.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] Forbo@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

Buy a domain, set up a catch-all and use servicename@yourdomain. Boom.

[–] njinx@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

If you read the website they have a workaround. Email sent to the bare address will Be denied and receive an automated response.