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Authorities find more bodies after initial report of 115 two weeks ago, when owners were evicted and police investigated foul odor

The remains of at least 189 decaying bodies were found and removed from a Colorado funeral home, up from about 115 reported when the bodies were discovered two weeks ago, officials said Tuesday.

The remains were found by authorities responding to a report of a foul odor at the Return to Nature funeral home inside a decrepit building in the small town of Penrose, Colorado.

Efforts to identify the remains began last week with help from an FBI team that gets deployed to mass casualty events like airline crashes. Fremont sheriff Allen Cooper described the scene as “horrific”.

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[–] Mobiuthuselah@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Are you sure natural burial is illegal?

[–] FraidyBear@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes and no, it's not a black and white issue. I didn't really want to go all in on the topic because it's Googleable. My grandpa recently passed and it's very expensive, we were looking for alternatives. On a federal level natural burial is allowed. The states take matters into their own hands. Some require burial vaults, some require embalming, some require that natural burials only happen in very specific places, and some require a mix of those things. It's doable but if they can squeeze money out of you through laws or extreme inconvenience, they will. It's not as easy and just picking a spot and burying a loved one, in a lot of cases.

[–] Mobiuthuselah@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

First of all, sorry to hear what you're going through.

In regards to natural burial, my understanding is that it's more legal than not, just that there's regulations depending on where you live. It's very rare that embalming is required by law. Burial vaults are typically required when embalming fluids are used to slow the spread of the fluids to waterways. Neither of these are considered part of a natural burial.

There's a lot smoke and mirrors in the funeral industry that has led to wide misconceptions and outright misinformation. I asked if you were sure because the points you made are generally what a traditional burial funeral home would tell a client to steer them more towards their products. It's awful that it's become common for funeral homes to prey on those that are grieving. Absolutely despicable.

I hope y'all find a way that honors your grandpa without causing additional stress.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m not the guy that you’re responding too but I’ll add my anecdote.

There was a somewhat off his rocker dude in my hometown that lived with his mom, she died, he didn’t notify anyone, buried her on his land (owned 15-20 acres or so, nothing large) and didn’t tell anyone. A few months go by and she obviously misses doctor appointments, church, etc so police check in. Then the guy says “oh yeah she died, I buried her, no biggie”. Turns out he violated a few laws doing this so he got some light jail time, she got exhumed, investigated to make sure she wasn’t murdered, then buried in a graveyard.

I lived fairly close to all this being in the same county and learned that in Illinois at least, you can’t just bury your dead, you have to go through some processes.

[–] Mobiuthuselah@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's right, there's is a process. You can't just bury people without reporting the death and going through some sort of process. That's a good bit different from an actual natural burial even if at face value he did bury her naturally lol. That's wild. I've heard of that happening in my region in the southern Appalachians too.

[–] SheDiceToday@eslemmy.es 2 points 9 months ago

I'll give you one better. I once found a dude who had been chucked in a garbage pile by his son. This was out in the deep country, so lots of land and most people had a burn pile or area they chucked garbage. It was pretty cold, so the body didn't decompose very much, but there he was, laying on the ground with trash bags and various household debris piled up on top of him. The son had wrapped him with some fitted sheets. It was wild.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

They are wrong. One of my family members works in the industry. Wood biodegradable caskets are perfectly legal in all states.