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"We dug our own grave with Cybertruck" Musk told investors
(www.motortrend.com)
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Enough Musk Spam
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I mean, Holden at least is dead so idk if that still counts as successful
Likewise Saab really but also fuckEM and Tesla motors can also fuck all the way off
Don't forget his direct competition in China: electrical vehicle manufacturers BYD Auto (2003) and XPeng (2014). BYD outsells all of Tesla's worldwide sales and XPeng is an up-and-comer that will likely exceed Tesla's domestic sales by the end of 2024.
There's so many companies in China building cars, I don't know enough about that market to really speak to that. I tried to hit some big Chinese players with some history, though.
BYD and XPeng, however, are especially relevant because the former is kicking Tesla's ass in EV space and the latter is about to. (And BYD makes some kick-ass public buses too. Glorious vehicles!)
Chinese manufacturers are doing well in the European market too. It's a genuine worry for traditional manufacturers who have failed to innovate for too long.
Geely's another big one. They own Volvo but also produce cars under the Lynk and Co brand. Have good lease deals in the Benelux. Then there's Nanjing Automobile. Own MG and make a quite good (and very affordable) range of electric cars.
Honestly, I'm also sceptical, but if I buy a new car it's likely to be an MG 4 based on glowing reviews and affordability.
Oh, don't worry. European governments will take a page from the American playbook and find a "national security" reason to ban Chinese cars.
Same for me. I'm moving back to France next year and I need to buy a car, there is a good chance it will be a MG4
If nothing else, you'd think he'd know about Volkswagen considering his hero came up with the Beetle.
You just got killed by a Daewoo Lanos