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[-] centof@lemm.ee 92 points 8 months ago

Fast Food workers aren't trained to dehumanize the public and see them as a threat. Cops are. Cops are also trained to respond with violence and intimidation to any perceived threat to their authoritah.

[-] Zaphernious@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago

That's a really good point

[-] isles@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Fast Food workers aren’t trained to dehumanize the public and see them as a threat.

That just happens as a matter of course working with the public.

[-] natebluehooves@pawb.social 7 points 8 months ago

To be clear: the training also does this.

[-] Damaskox@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I was once told that the American police forces chooses only people below a certain intellectual threshold to be cops so they wouldn't think too much about or question orders gotten from their bosses 🤔 (dunno if it's true)

[-] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There was a famous case where a single person was rejected, and the cited reason was his high IQ. The particular location had a policy of rejecting extreme IQ because evidence showed that IQ is correlated with job turnover. He sued them and lost because IQ is not a protected status in the US and because there was a cited non-prejudicial reason.

But of note, it doesn't appear to be common enough that anyone has researched it as a statistic. It's just that despite being run by the government, police departments have enough autonomy to set their own hiring policies as long as they are legal.

There's a lot of genuine criticisms about the police. We should focus on those. Like their half-ass training and the laws/policies that lead to harmful behavior by them and garner well-earned mistrust.

[-] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I think the format of system, as framed around obedience to particular elite interests, and detachment from broader social interests, is completely a valid target of criticism.

Of course, arguments should be based on factually accurate premises.

[-] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago

I think the format of system, as framed around obedience to particular elite interests, and detachment from broader social interests, is completely a valid target of criticism.

I'm not sure what you mean in this sentence. Are you talking about the system of police applications and how they hire/train cops? Or are you talking about the overall problem where police serve laws which (not coincidentally) protect corporate interests?

If the former, I'm not sure I'd agree. If the latter, I agree 100%.

[-] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I am talking about policing.

[-] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I doubt the story is quite true.

There are no explicit and uniform policies, and one as such, if it were real, likely would be well known.

However, even such a policy would seem unlikely to make much difference practically.

It is abundantly clear that the system reproduces itself by being good only to those who are good to the system.

Anyone who carries deeper curiosity, or inclination to question, the dominating systems of authority, power, and ideals, is unlikely to last long under an oath to protect them.

this post was submitted on 19 Oct 2023
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