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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Yeah I support the right to a comfortable death, but there’s a hard line here of only for people who will die in the near future with or without intervention of a disease they’re suffering from a sufficiently advanced case of. And it needs strict controls including oversight by disabled people.

I’ve watched a person slowly and painfully waste away to a disease. But I’ve also seen people say my life isn’t worth living.

Choices still matter in drug addiction and it shouldn’t receive the final mercy we may choose to offer to the terminally ill who are unable to even end their own life. If they want to die then they should have to do it themselves without help.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Now you’re making yourself the arbiter of whose suffering is deserving of relief. Who are you to be the judge?

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The difference is that drug addiction can be cured. Maybe we should try rehab first. If they're not clean or OD'ed after x number of years ok maybe then. But hell let's try first.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still don't think that answers the question:

Why should anyone other than yourself be the arbiter of if your life should continue?

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because people under the influence of drugs don't always make choices that they won't regret when they're sober. I have personally witnessed people that wanted to die while fucked up on legally obtained prescription drugs used as directed because the side effects are just that bad. They don't feel that way once they're off that shit.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No one has suggested you would just execute a person on sight while they are under the influence.

In these situations there are interviews, evaluations and waiting periods to ensure the person is 'of sound mind' before proceeding.

So with that cleared up, I'll repeat my question.

Why should you get to be the arbiter of if someone else is allowed to die?

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

If they're truely of sound mind then I don't see a problem with it if they want to take the long night night.

[–] Nahdahar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's the thing though. How could individuals struggling with addiction maintain clear and rational thinking?

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