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[–] DancingIsForbidden@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure being able to figure it out on your own is the entrance to the legal loophole wealthy people use to squirm out of a huge bill.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Saved me $3000ish last year

There's all kinds of esoteric rules the typical tax software doesn't know how to handle

[–] DancingIsForbidden@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes,and this just means you can interpret them as creatively as you can pay an accountant to get funky with the guidelines!

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, that's not how it works.

On a certain level, if you can afford to pay lawyers to delay the process you can "get away" with anything, but there's only so much creative accounting that can be done before it's clearly a crime.

[–] DancingIsForbidden@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can call them clear and obvious crimes or even chicken sandwiches if you want but it doesn't actually matter what label we'd personally like to put on it if the government doesn't prosecute it. Wealthy people and companies in our society have been successfully funneling money to sidestep tax law out in the open for as long as law and government itself existed and will continue to do so. It's no secret that Apple pays no federal taxes. It's acknowledged by both sides. Donald Trump publicly filed for bankruptcy several times despite making significant profits and walked away with huge write-offs and possibly even a huge refund. Hes openly bragged about it for decades now. He would love the opportunity to talk highly about himself by doing so again to a room full of IRS agents. Nothing will ever come of cases like these.

It makes me sick also, because I feel like Bernie was our last chance to stop it. But at this point to even get angry about it anymore is a waste of energy and time. I was around in 2011 when the occupy protests did dick all to stop wall street from getting away with financial crimes. They all yelled and screamed that it was illegal, and it at least partially was. But who gives a shit if it doesn't affect anything? Wall street hasn't changed in almost a century aside from automated trading. Several movies were made named wall street, several decades apart, and it was almost literally the same movie. Our options are: just fucking cope already, or go mental. It's likely not going to happen, at least not for a long time, and by that time most of the ones that already did or are happening now that we know about will already have too much time passed to be legally persuable. We have to just let it go and persue another battle. Cope.