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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sorry Kev, but no, the problem is not the crazy right, it's endemic. You spend the last several decades assembling the most craven, ignornant, zealous voter base and now you're acting all surprised that the loonies are running the asylum. Even your most moderate members know they can't be seen working with Democrats or they face retribution from Trump and The Base.

I've been saying this for a long time, the only thing that will ever get the GOP back on a small-d democratic path again is a long, long walk in the wilderness. They need a decades-long time out to think about all the harm they've done to this country under the guise of 'patriotism' and 'christianity'.

Yep, the problem is that the "mainstream" GOP is so off the rails that they don't even recognize extremists for what they are and they are so deeply unpopular that they have to cheat and actually court people from every fringe to have a chance of winning.

[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've thought this for a while. An interviewer asked him if he knew he would get Democratic votes for that 45 day funding bill. If he hadn't, I bet Gaetz wouldn't have triggered a recall.

[–] thereisalamp@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The circumstances of that bill are weird af too.

They gave democrats no time to read it, and barely any time to get to the hill for the vote on the first place. Arguably, the only reason they voted for it at all is because of the congressman who pulled the fire alarm, giving dems time to read and see it was a reasonable bill.

But, if the dems hadn't had time to read the bill, they likely would've voted against it on the premise of not voting on something they don't understand hasn't read, and someone they inherently don't trust presented under shadycircumstances. Then McCarthy would've had a shutdown like Gaetz wanted, but, one he could've blamed on the dems, for not voting for this very reasonable extension bill.