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yeah but if you join, and your friends join, and they're friends, you know what nevermind

[Edit] holy shit people I get it, people like it small, take it easy it's just a meme, don't need to keep commenting and DMing

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[–] MiloSquirrel@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Honestly? I think a big issue with getting more people over here is kinda the attitude. This place is really elitist and condescending when the real reason go to threads or stick to twitter is cause

  1. Thats where their friends are
  2. The sign up+finding communities process is way more intuitive and 3) Folks over here shit on them a lot

I like it here, its been my prefered site, but between the stale memes and elitism the Fediverse has been like the Linux of social media. Probably better, but not really worth it for the average user.

Like, I know that wont win me any friends, but it's the truth. People are usually going to go the path of least resistance, and Lemmy instances being confusing to navigate for an average user, or looking at Mastodon.world and seeing they banned shitposts and not understanding that they can use a different one or spin up their own is going to turn people away.

If you want a more niche userbase that's fine, I certainly do, but it's wild to insult them for being stupid for not joining while actively keeping them away lol

Edit 2: Removed the first edit

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This place is really elitist

Folks over here shit on them a lot

I feel called out. And I can't even try and defend myself, if I'm being honest, best I could do is try to defend my elitist point of view, that people who don't want to bother putting the slightest bit of effort really don't have much to do here. There's also the problem that instances can only grow so much before their home servers get strained with traffic and hosting costs soar.

In a way, we are and will remain the linux of social platforms. Small, vocal, divided by the pettiest reasons and annoying to no end to "the normies"

Self-solving problems

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You make good points. People could afford to be more accepting and patient.

But it's also inevitable that the people on a more niche platform will judge the people on a mainstream platform. That's just human nature, and it doesn't turn people away as much as you imply. For everyone who's turned off by the condescension, there's another person who's curious whether it's justified.

while actively keeping them away lol

I mean, the numbers clearly indicate that 99.99% of reddit users have never made an account on Lemmy. I don't think people are being pushed away, I think they are simply lazy and short sighted, and also waiting for the dust to settle.

Reddit was the most elitist site on the planet for much of its existence, and it never posed a problem for growth.

[–] Anoril@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit elitism is nothing in comparison to what i see on lemmy instances lol.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You seem to be an expert when it comes to elitism, so I'll defer to your judgment.

I am curious which social media platform you prefer?

[–] Anoril@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Depending on the definition: twitch/youtube. If you somehow dont count both then none, just using whats handy at the moment.

[–] johnlsullivan2@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you interact with peers on YouTube comments? I've never talked with anyone in the comment section other than the content creator.

[–] Anoril@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Very rarely, on youtube im mostly interested in the content. Usually if i want some interaction i go on twitch.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Fair enough, thank you for answering my question.

I am also hoping that the content on Lemmy will improve going forward, but that doesn't mean I'm not enjoying it now.

[–] MothBookkeeper@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have nothing against people that want to use Threads, truly, and I would welcome them to Lemmy. That said, I do draw the line at federating with Threads. I'm here specifically because it's not part of a big company. If anyone wants to enjoy that content, go for it! Just create an account over there.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

How would being federated with Threads work? Aren't we federated with Mastadon? I barely see Mastadon stuff, so why would we see thread's stuff?

[–] MiloSquirrel@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I completely agree. Absolutely should not federate with Threads.