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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that doesn't fly in the real world where actions have consequences.

Justice cannot simply be allowed to die in the dark just because both sides are stubborn. We as humans owe reality much more than that. Trying to let the past be the past is what got us here. We have to do something to hold everyone who committed a war crime responsible so all sides feel as though justice has been done.

Forgiveness blackens the soul, bro. Justice is what brings humanity light and those people so badly need light right now.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have to do something to hold everyone who committed a war crime responsible so all sides feel as though justice has been done.

So what exactly did all those civilians do in terms of committing war crimes? How many Settlers are facing the music for killing Palestinians while doing highly suspicious things such as harvesting olives?

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's a pretty transparent attempt to twist my words. We have international criminal courts. We've held tyrants and genocidal maniacs to the hangman's noose before and need to start doing it again. We're capable of discerning who is responsible for doing what. We're adults.

You might not want justice to happen, but the rest of us do, and we won't be deterred by you.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have international criminal courts.

Israel is not part to the ICC. Palestine is.

You might not want justice to happen, but the rest of us do, and we won’t be deterred by you.

Now that is twisting my words. Again: How many Settlers are facing the music for killing Palestinians while doing highly suspicious things such as harvesting olives? Is that or is that not advocating for justice?

Meanwhile Israel surely served justice by exchanging 1000 Hamas fighters for a single IDF soldier. Letting stone throwers and crooks go, fine, sure, but people like Yahya Sinwar? Who justly got four life sentences? Fucking stop talking about justice.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't care what side you're on. Doubling down isn't going to let you get around the fact that you can't sacrifice justice for peace, for any side of the conflict. The ICC really needs to hold authority over all countries. That's where your quibbling should be taken. If humanity refuses to accept justice, then all you'll get are genocides and forever wars, and it'll probably be what we deserve.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The ICC really needs to hold authority over all countries. That’s where your quibbling should be taken.

Israel won't join the ICC any time soon because reasons, and Gaza, well, Hamas is running it as their little dictatorship. Best I can currently offer you in regards to justice, thus, is to hold the Israeli justice system to account.

I don’t care what side you’re on.

I'm on the side that opposes fascism. I don't care what language people do fascism in, or what coat of paint they give it. Kahanites and Hamas are the same shit to me.