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[–] avater@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

but Israel still bad, or did the meta changed?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
  • Israel Military is still bad.
  • Hamas is still bad.

That meta hasn't changed.

Hamas holding a selection of world citizens as hostages puts a interesting spin on international support and responses.

Russia in particular has a history of hostages be damned, we're going to hurt the hostage takers....

[–] avater@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Israel Military is still bad. Hamas is still bad. That meta hasn’t changed.

This is not the meta I encountered here but a normal persons view on the conflict that I totally agree and share with you!

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah... Lots of people have vested interests, or are just responding emotionally.. so we get lots of drive by outrage posting.

Hard to have a civil discussion on the news topics that actually has a real thoughtful back and forth debate. (Repeating talking points at each other isn't a debate, it's just noise)

I still try, every once in a while we find it, and it's worth while....

[–] quatschkopf34@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No, Israel is not bad. The entire country is in shock after a devastating terror attack that killed thousands. They have a right to defend themselves. What can and should be criticized and questioned is the current government and how they act in Gaza. On the other side, any form of anti-semitism that hides as criticism should not be tolerated.

[–] avater@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

True but it is also very important not to flag any appropriate criticism directly as anti-semitism.

[–] quatschkopf34@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, that is also true.