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  • Global surge in antisemitic incidents following the conflict between Hamas and Israel, affecting Jewish communities in various countries.
  • Antisemitic acts range from verbal abuse to physical assaults, often justified by anger over the Gaza conflict.
  • In areas like the U.S., Britain, France, Germany, and South Africa, antisemitic incidents have increased several hundred percent compared to the same period last year.
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[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

It's as if antizionism is like antisemitism 🤔

Oh wait, they're literally the same. Most "antizionists" I've known and also seen online are covert antisemites.

[–] ExIsraeliAnarchist@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I do think there can be legitimate criticism of Israel and zionism that is not antisemitic (like accepting that Jews deserve a safe place to live on our ancestral land, but also that ethno-states are a bad thing), but I do agree that, especially online almost all anti-zionism comes from an antisemitic place, or at least an ignorant one.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That person defined anti-semitism such that significant fraction of Jew are anti-semites by that definition.

Fascists commonly claim the entire nation equals "their brand of fascism" in order to imply that any who do not support their brand of fascism are traitors. Zionists went a step further and claim an entire religion equals "their brand of fascism" in order to imply that any who do not support their brand of fascism are racist against the whole religion.

Theirs is the playbook of Fascism, with a few situation-specific adjustment.

[–] ExIsraeliAnarchist@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That person defined anti-semitism such that significant fraction of Jew are anti-semites by that definition.

and, as a Jewish anti-zionist, I disagreed with them.

But that still doesn't change the fact that actual antisemites hide behind the excuse of anti-zionism to continue to spread antisemitism. the thread we're commenting on is a live example of this, and minimising this fact helps the antisemites.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

True.

The conflating of Zionism with all of Israel and with the Jewish Religion as a whole has been very useful for the Israeli far right and the cost has been paid by Jews all over the World who have nothing to do with those fascists.

Similary, the accompanying strategy of throwing the accusation of anti-semitism left, right and center at any criticism of Israel or Zionism has had a "the boy who cried wolf" effect: people don't really believe it anymore, so when real alerts for real anti-semitism are made, people just take them as the usual false slander for political purposes.

This was entirelly to be expected.

[–] anteaters@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They are happy to no longer be any "covert" about it.

[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That's the whole point of inventing the "antizionist" term, it makes them feel less bad about themselves because they can look in the mirror and lie to themselves by saying "I'm not a Nazi, I'm just against a state". It's like how anti-abortionists prefer to call themselves "pro-life", it's less negative.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social -3 points 10 months ago

So since I say the same shit about the American government, what does that make me?

Especially since I live in America.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social -3 points 10 months ago

Nope one is about a terroristic government who kills children and journalists all willy nilly, the other is a religion/race, I've really understood how Jewish is a race but that is neither here nor there.

I hate the Israeli government but I can't think of a single jewish person i have met that i don't like.

Good food and friendly people from what I can tell.