Edit: it would be really fucking great if people just realized that citizens are not responsible for the actions of their government/military… this goes for everyone - US, Russia, China, Israel, Palestine, EVERYONE

Fuck the powers that be and their direct fucking over of everyone lying under their fist.

[–] mondo_brondo@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

In a representative democracy, the people being responsible for their government is kind of the point.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Yeah. But we are an oligarchy.

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Except representative democracy is a myth… Majority rule ≠ representation. Non-majority groups are unaccounted for. Plus, while the people may vote for representatives, they ultimately have no control over what said representatives decide to actually do. They can campaign for and promise all they want, but once they’re in office, they’re there.

Citizens are not responsible for the actions of their government.

[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think most people realize that members of congress can’t be recalled.

[–] inspired@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

As a legal matter, maybe not. As a practical matter I'm pretty sure it is evident.

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can't simultaneously support democracy and say that the citizens aren't responsible for their government.

Either democracy is a failure or it isn't.

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago

That’s what I’m saying. Most current democratic systems are a failure

[–] stella@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

Direct voting is the future.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago

If your first thought from reading this is that "evil muslims will bomb me in acts of terrorism" then your brain has been irreparably poisoned by US state department funded Hollywood movies

[–] ntzm@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How do I make this atrocity all about me, a westerner

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Excuse me?

I feel like being nervous in response to blatant threats to my nation - and by extent its populous, including myself - is fairly reasonable

[–] ksynwa@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Are you American? No part of the article comes close to implying they want to target American civlians:

“To the Americans I say, focusing your threats on Hezbollah and the region are pointless,” Nasrallah said. The US said it “would not only attack Lebanon but will attack Iran.”

“Your fleets in the Mediterranean do not and will not cause us to fear. We have prepared for your fleet what it takes. You Americans remember your defeats from Lebanon (early 80s), Iraq, and Afghanistan… your humiliating retreat from Afghanistan. He praised the recent attacks by Iraqi Shia militias against US based in the region.

“If an all out war erupts your fleet will be no good, your warplanes will be pointless, you will pay a heavy price.”

They are clearly talking about defending against an American intervention. Hurting American civilians in Amrerica would be even more strategically stupid than cruel so I don't know why you jumped to that conclusion. Maybe you are projecting the American tradition of imposing collective punishment on civilians as they do in cases of their interventions and economic sanction. Unless you want just to fantasise about Muslim hordes in which case you read it however you want.