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[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, I see the Russian disinformation crew had joined us. Congratulations to lemmy for growing enough to become a target!

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't refute? Just make wild accusations!

[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's no point in refuting Republican talking points that were discredited thirteen years ago. The Democrats had their supermajority for a total of two weeks at the end of 2009. Not nearly enough time to pass anything and everything they wanted. That talking point is dead and buried and is more than enough evidence that I'm not dealing with someone arguing in good faith.

Is that your intent as well? Sealion me so I waste my time rehashing old, dead arguments?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There’s no point in refuting Republican talking points

What talking points? I asked what Biden has done to fix the damage caused by the policies he says he no longer holds. That's a reasonable question until you try to answer it.

The Democrats had their supermajority for a total of two weeks at the end of 2009.

They could have done away with the filibuster forever with a simple majority but they didn't want to. Might have passed the public option, after all. And just think of all the stuff the party would have to find new excuses for not passing.

In any event, Biden has been president since the start of 2021. During that time, he has been the head of the executive branch, which includes the DEA. We have entrusted him with that agency. What has he done to walk back the war on drugs? This should be a layup if he's actually done anything. If he hasn't, it draws his statements on the subject into question.

Is that your intent as well? Sealion me so I waste my time rehashing old, dead arguments?

More wild accusations. It was one question. You tried to bullshit your way through it, and when I didn't accept it, out came the "well you must be a Republican Russian like everyone to my left who doesn't instantly accept bullshit at face value! SEALION!"

EDIT: My apologies. It was silverbax who tried to bullshit an answer. You immediately jumped to the wild accusations because I dared to expect Biden to behave consistently with his stated position.

Biden's support of the war on drugs caused real damage to the communities that the war on drugs was designed to disrupt. If he says he's changed and is now against it, asking what he's done about it or even what he intends to do about it is not unreasonable. If you make a mess, you do what you can to clean it up.

If you just want me to shut up and be happy, you can just say that.

[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you want to defend a Russian troll, that's your lookout. That you took my comments personally is your problem, not mine. I'm not interested in rehashing ancient history.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you want to defend a Russian troll, that’s your lookout

If you want to call anyone who doesn't worship failure as much as you do a russian troll, that's yours.

That you took my comments personally is your problem, not mine.

You immediately accused me of being a russian troll.

I’m not interested in rehashing ancient history.

After using the 2009 congress as an excuse.

EDIT: It appears that I have this thread and the one further up where I asked what Biden had done to undo his war on drugs policies confused. My bad. I leave this in place as evidence of my foolishness. Ridicule as you please, for I have earned it.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Biden is funding a genocide. Wants to be given the power to do so closed door.

New argument.

Go. Tell me why this man is worthy of being my leader.

You don't get to reference Trump. Or Republicans in general.

Why should I vote for a man fervently enabling genocide?

[–] Melkath@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

Wooooooooow.

Imma hope you were shittin' yer britches during the Obama administration and that's your defense for being that ignorant.