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Israeli PM said to have turned down proposal in early talks and continues to take tough line

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would also be in favor of ending racist government policies and giving full rights and protections to Palestinians, but that is really difficult with the terrorist actions.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's saying "the beatings will continue until morale improves".

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's an escalation ladder, both sides need to deescalate together to lower hostilities.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Saying “both sides” is siding with the oppressor.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But they're literally both oppressors

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

GTFO with false equivalence between a democratically elected government with nuclear weapons, backed by the USA, and the terrorist band they’re propping up as a preferred enemy to undercut peaceful leadership.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're also against Hamas? Cool, we agree. Seemed like the original comment was defending their use of violence. I by no means support Israel or what it's doing to the Palestinians. But Hamas is pretty terrible.

I agree the peaceful leadership was undercut. What I was trying to say was that that leadership was better and likely to incur less Palistinian death and suffering than Hamas and it's 'violence is the only answer' stance.