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Nearly half of Democrats disapprove of Biden’s response to the Israel-Hamas war, AP-NORC poll shows (apnews.com)

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The poll found 50% of Democrats approve of how Biden has navigated the conflict while 46% disapprove — and the two groups diverge substantially in their views of U.S. support for Israel. Biden’s support on the issue among Democrats is down slightly from August, as an AP-NORC poll conducted then found that 57% of Democrats approved of his handling of the conflict and 40% disapproved.

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[-] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 8 months ago

It depends on how you define progressive, but largely I agree not much else could have reasonably been done, regardless of how progressive they are.

But Biden's situation is unique to him and his campaign. A Bernie incumbent wouldn't be needing to defend his progressive alignments and policies, but Biden is very much fighting an optics battle. He is pitching himself as "the most progressive president in a generation" because his survival depends on that demographic. Whatever your opinion is on what he's actually done, his polling numbers clearly indicate that the progressive base does not believe he is sufficiently progressive. This conflict fucks his messaging, and the progressive caucus seems fairly animated by this issue particularly.

Again, it would be pretty hard for him to loose reelection (though I would strongly caution against assuming so), but that doesn't mean he can't still be put way on his back foot for his second term.

[-] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

But Biden’s situation is unique to him and his campaign. A Bernie incumbent wouldn’t be needing to defend his progressive alignments and policies, but Biden is very much fighting an optics battle. He is pitching himself as “the most progressive president in a generation” because his survival depends on that demographic

Is he though? This feels like everyone expected Obama to be a progressive despite years of media calling him a Moderate. Even Trump accused him of being a "radical moderate".

Biden agreed to give Progressives a small seat at the table, which is the best we've gotten since at least Clinton, if not Carter.

Whatever your opinion is on what he’s actually done, his polling numbers clearly indicate that the progressive base does not believe he is sufficiently progressive

I've learned from Trump that "how you poll" and "how well you're doing" are two very different things. Trump should've polled a 0%, and yet he hit almost 50% on multiple occasions. And his highest approval was throughout 2020.

I'm not speaking to whether Biden is winning progressive votes, only to whether he's doing his part. I don't think Bernie would be doing better than him on any of these things, but as you say, progressives would give him more lenience because he didn't come in as a moderate.

This conflict fucks his messaging, and the progressive caucus seems fairly animated by this issue particularly.

Well yeah. Welcome to the president problem. You're always making a lot of people mad, no matter what you do.

Again, it would be pretty hard for him to loose reelection (though I would strongly caution against assuming so), but that doesn’t mean he can’t still be put way on his back foot for his second term.

I never expected anything more than 4-8 years of back-leg after Trump, from any president. But we still have to support him if we don't want Trump.

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