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I'm in a situation with my manager who is suggesting that clock-in starts when the employee arrives to the site of work. Effectively saying that everyone should be coming in 15 minutes earlier than their start time.

The majority of what I read online was about security checks when leaving the premises instead of entering. And the results of a couple class actions seem like the law has loose interpretation.

Wondering what your experiences have been like dealing with this situation. Are you paid for your time traveling on company premises?

For ref this takes place in California.

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 69 points 8 months ago (2 children)

As soon as you are doing the things that your company has ordered, you are working.

This includes enduring the security check.

[–] bostonbananarama@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

2014 unanimous Supreme Court case says that they do not need to be paid. State law may require otherwise though. Believe there was a PA case recently that ruled they did need to be paid.

[–] effward@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Wouldn't that definition also include time spent commuting?

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes. Generally the.company doesn't order you to live where you do. If you want paid commuting time they will tell you to move next door so your time is 1 minute (that zoning doesn't allow this or someone else lives there isn't their problem ).

If you are told to travel from one office to another though you should be paid for your time. If they transfer your office they may owe you moving expenses so your commute isn't too long '

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 9 points 8 months ago

If you are told to travel from one office to another though you should be paid for your time

This is actually law in the 'states. If you need to travel further than your normal commute you are paid for your travel time from your normal location to the new one and if you drive your milage is paid at a rate of 67¢/mile off the top of my head. I worked IT at a rural bank for a while and had to expense my milage pretty often as I went to branches 30-50 miles away to swap computers and whatnot

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Good question. Generally No.

Your duty to come to work is part of your work contract. But not the question where you come from, or where you go after work. That's your decision and your private time.

If it is different, for example if they order you where to live, then that must be compensated.