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[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

As someone who doesn't have or tried steamos, is there a reason to choose it over existing distros? Is anyone here running it on their pc?

[–] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It provides an alternative UI environment built and optimized for gaming. It has a separate windows manager, a complete ui, and a set of menus to simplify customization of whatever is needed for gaming and power saving.

And quick access to steam store.

It is extremely convenient if you like a console-like experience, but, if you are a tinker gamer, it has anyway a lot of nice additional features.

It is inconvenient as general purpose desktop os, because on update you basically lose packages not installed as flatpack

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Sounds nice for the telly. I love my nuc under the tv, but a nice, controller friendly interface would be sweet.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it any different than kde plasma + steam big picture?

[–] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I don't know if steam big picture use gamescope https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope.

I would guess it doesn't, but I cannot be 100% sure, I haven't used steam on my laptop since ages

[–] brian@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

yes, it doesn't run plasma when it's in big picture, it runs it in https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope along with other tweaks, so it's lower overhead and game windows tend to behave better

it also handles updates to os as well as to steam so you don't ever end up with an update that breaks steam, they're always in sync

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And it is somehow moddable, like people created plugins for the UI. I hope someone ends up adding alternative stores directly there and not just steam. But in any case you can install the respective apps and so on.

[–] S410@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

SteamOS is an OS for gaming consoles. It's specifically tailored for gaming and it has controller-friendly UI.

You can game on regular distros, but you need to install and open Steam, download games, and, then, launch them, before you can grab the controller.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could also launch directly to big picture mode for a “console” PC

[–] S410@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a little more than that.

SteamOS also uses an immutable filesystem and the system updates as a whole. Because of that, there is no risk of something updating separately and breaking compatibility.
It's fairly common for things to update on regular linux distros and break e.g. anticheat support in Proton or some other thing.

Another thing SteamOS does, at least on the Steam Desk, is actually using two partitions. The updates are always installed to the inactive one, so there's always one image that's known to work. Even if an update fails, the device will simply boot into the intact OS image. Regular distros usually don't have much in terms of fail-safes, so if things break, they have to be fixed manually.

Basically, SteamOS is trying to be as reliable and "hands-off" of an OS as possible to provide best console-like experience.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Nice info. Thank you

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's really more about the extensive Proton compatibility testing.

[–] Fisch@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Proton works on any distro

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mainly that it's specifically calibrated for running games on Linux. I've tried the Steam Deck and it works pretty damn well out the box, compared to any other distros, so a PC version would be cool.

[–] The_Walkening@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What I really appreciate is that it's geared toward handhelds, but has a decent desktop experience and is powerful enough to be a nice mobile media/piracy box with a remote and a USB-C breakout dongle. You don't even need to change the read-only filesystem if you use WireGuard VPN (this might take some legwork to generate the .conf files you need, depends on VPN provider) and a streaming/torrenting program that comes in flatpak.

EDIT: Also forgot, you can add a custom shortcut to your Steam Library and have (some) programs launch from the SteamOS frontend rather than desktop.

[–] Jinxyface@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Mostly just Valve specific software implements to make the experience better. SteamOS has a really good suspend/resume sleep feature where you can just power off the Deck during a game like any other console, then when you hit the power button again it just lights back up to where you were in the game.

Not sure if that's in any other distro

[–] thegreenguy@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think on all distros if you suspend, when you turn your device back on, it resumes everything.

[–] Jinxyface@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The Steam deck is very quick though. I just paused Like a Dragon Gaiden and it took about 2 seconds to go to sleep, left it sitting on the table for an hour or so while I did some errands. Picked it back up and hit thepower button and I was back on the pause menu in about another 2 seconds.

Steam Deck "sleep" is more like locking your phone than it is like putting a Windows PC to sleep

[–] Chump@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Aside from native proton, being able to do everything (easily) from the controller. It's amazing how often you still need a mouse, or just the windows key, in windows :(

[–] 520@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On a generic PC? No.

On a Steam Deck, it has useful hardware related features that are easy to access, like global frame rate limiting and seamless sleep/resume