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[–] aidan@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just as a true socialist country has never existed, a true capitalist country has never existed. Economies are always mixed.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Socialists are not fans of, and often are opposed to the state. That's the reason that a socialist state hasn't and will never realistically exist. It's an oxymoron. It's got nothing to do with mixed economies. That's just the reason exploitative authoritarians like capitalist indoctrinate people with to further their own goals.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you define socialism? Because I think it contradicts with how I (and I think most others) would

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's definitely does. But only because westerners especially are not properly educated on such things. It goes against the goals of the wealthy. I say that as a Westerner myself who only educated myself on it years later.

Basically I reside somewhere between social democrat and true libertarian. Left libertarian. Right libertarians reject a large chunk of libertarianism and are therefore not actually libertarians. They're just selfish and ignorant. Basically though an end to the bourgeoisie, worker ownership of the means of production not state, and much more simplified highly flattened governing structures. That would be the base and core of socialism. As traditionally defined.