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Biden's message to hostages in Gaza: 'Hang in there, we're coming'
(www.reuters.com)
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I think that Netanyahu’s rhetoric has been clear that the hostages are not the his primary concern. His focus is on eliminating Hamas entirely. I don’t disagree that releasing the hostages needs to happen if there’s to be any hope of a deescalation, but I think it’s a longer road to the conflict ceasing than Hamas doing what they should’ve done as soon as Israel retaliated.
I mean, I think anyone paying close attention knows that the administration's real priorities are expansion, though luckily I think there's enough visibility and blowback that they have hopefully walked that back internally.
Going after Hamas as an organization is probably better done with a long term and more refined strategy than short term leveling half of Palestine.
I'm very curious what's going to happen now that they are raiding the hospital.
That you had US intelligence publicly agree that it's a center of operations for Hamas, footage of combatants firing RPGs from near the hospital, then a few hours ago Biden is all like "we're coming for you hostages" and now there's a very risky ground operation going into the hospital...
While I'm too cynical to hope for actual good news, I do think the next few hours will be very enlightening.
I saw the video from CNN where they were with the IDF and its either all blown up or bulldozed to find tunnels. I haven't seen that since pictures of dresden. Northern Gaza is gonna be a parking lot in 2 years with settlers.
Most modern war ends up with parking lots. Did you see the before and after of Syria's civil war?
It's part of what infuriates me so much with the casual conversation around a civil war in the US. Like, it's not a conflict with muskets that will eventually end with one side in power over the surviving republic. A drawn out civil conflict between nuclear armed states in the country with the largest military expenditure in the world is basically just going to flatten the entire thing and escalate to a world war.
Diplomatic avenues are ever more important as we move further and further into 21st century warfare.
And as we have seen over and over with conflicts in the past few decades, authoritarianism must be kept out of world governments for those avenues to be given a chance.
I really don't think we'd be seeing the same tragedy in Gaza right now had efforts to oust Netanyahu for corruption been successful before the attacks.
Portions of Iraq were like this as well. I know because I saw it with my own two eyes.