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  1. Being dropped 500 years ago into your ancestors' community.
  2. Being dropped 500 years into the future in your community.

You have a day to source some clothing appropriate to the time period. Unfortunately, that's not enough time to learn a dialect.

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[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Scenario 2 is where you would be outed as a time traveller.

Scenario 1 is where you would be outed as a witch.

Not sure witch would happen first.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Scenario 2 you could probably get away with being a dumbfuck foreigner.

[–] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unless 500 years in the future travel has been so easy for so long that all cultures have merged into one. Then you'll be the only foreigner.

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well with scenario 1, it would be fairly quick because people speak way different now than 500 years ago.

[–] grandpaST@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

They will also likely speak way different in 500 years than we do now. We have an idea what 1523 English sounded like. 2523 is uncharted territory.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hell, I have trouble understanding young people right now. I'm not trying to dunk on them, I'm just old.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago
[–] sour@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] sour@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

because random name generator

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We have an idea what 1523 English sounded like.

In the early 2000s the Globe in London did productions of Shakespeare in the original pronunciation.

Here is how the opening of Romeo and Juliet would have sounded.

[–] OneStepAhead@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago

Pretty neat. I think I caught about half of that. I’m now wondering what percentage of that was more difficult to understand than an average persons speech. I don’t generally talk in iambic pentameter or what-have-you. The flow of the words for something like this is likely making it harder to understand than “regular talk”

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

He does for this in.

Yes, there is a definite similarity there.

[–] livus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I agree. Also, if the climate catastrophe unfolds as predicted, there will be a return to intense regionalization of dialects because people will live in smaller groups and have less contact with outsiders.

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago

That would be an interesting one, because I speak enough old norse and Latin to pass as a foreigner from the far east (until they realise I don't speak Arabic). But 2523 English will be unrecognizable, and worse, they'd probably recognize our "old" English. It's like if Shakespeare showed up today, vs some guy from the future who barely speaks English and pretends to only speak an uncommon foreign language.

[–] Can_you_change_your_username@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

European colonization of America wouldn't have started yet so a majority of Americans wouldn't even be on the same continent. Most of us wouldn't even speak the same language as our ancestors. My ancestors would most likely understand English but wouldn't speak it as their primary language. That may somewhat disguise the dialect difference but would cause all sorts of other problems. They may be actively fighting a war with England or they may be in a period of uneasy peace getting ready for the next war with England.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

For real shits and giggles:

You get dropped exactly where you are now, just 500 years ago. All the European descended people not living in Europe are (very likely) in for a bad time.

[–] livus@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Probably not a bad time in the places that had never seen them. It's only the people who they'd already been dicks to by 1523 that you'd need to worry about.

I actually looked this one up, there was no settlement of any kind right on this spot, so I'd have time to sort myself out before approaching a settlement a few days' journey.

[–] grandpaST@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ya, that's why I worded it that way. I wouldn't survive a week landing in midwest North America in 1523. Assuming civilization somehow continues for 500 more years, you would attract much less attention in scenario 2.

I'm in western Appalachia. There were no human settlements here but I might run into a group of hunters. I feel like I'm pretty decent in nature. I've been hunting, hiking, and camping in this area my whole life. With no modern equipment I give myself about a week. Most likely cause of death: Snakebite or eaten by wolves.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

You could play dumb.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Scenario 1 is where you would be outed as a witch.

Unlikely, since I am a man :-)