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[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm willing to believe that men hunted more frequently for this reason alone. Women are simply too valuable. I wonder if this is the origin of a dowry as well. Compensation for the tribe or family losing the ability to expand.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think you mean bride price. A dowry is something the woman's family gives to the husband's family.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yep thx for the correction.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Not always. In Islamic tradition, the man pays the dowry (know in Arabic as mahr مهر) to the bride, who would then own the money herseöf (so not her family or tribe). It can be anything with monetary value, including lifestock or gold.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Men were more expendable but the more important issue at hand was continued survival of the tribe. If we don't have children we die out in 20-40 years. If we don't have food, we die out in 2-4 weeks. If a woman was physically capable, she was likely going to be sent out on a hunt, more so if her family were hunters too.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're willing to believe that despite complete lack of any evidence for that?

[–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I would never quote it as scientific fact without scientific evidence, but it does withstand some scrutiny. Hunting is dangerous.

10 alive men + 5 alive women + 5 dead women = 0-5 babies

10 alive women + 5 alive men + 5 dead men = 0-10 babies

If that isn’t evolutionary pressure, I don’t know what is