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IDF says tunnel, outfitted with blast-proof door and firing hole, found alongside booby-trapped vehicle loaded with weapons

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[–] silicon_reverie@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Holy whataboutism, Batman, no one is arguing that Hamas is in the right here. What are you even trying to say with this? "Hamas 'fucks civilians' which makes them evil... so Israel might as well join in and 'fuck civilians' too"?

Can't we all just agree that no one should be "fucking civilians" for any reason, because you know, they're civilians?

[–] kick_out_the_jams@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The protection of civilians is precisely the reason weapons and armed forces are usually kept far from ANY civilian infrastructure, especially hospitals.

[–] silicon_reverie@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Yes, which is why turning a hospital or refugee camp into a command post is a war crime. But it also means that attacking a hospital or refugee camp, whether they're being used as shields for military targets or not, should also not be done lightly. Iron-clad case made beforehand that it is a military target, rigorous scrutiny of the claim evaluated by an independent body after the fact, and the military action against the target has to prioritize the civilians as much as possible. They're people. Men, women, and children who have nothing to do with the conflict and are simply caught in the crossfire. One side showing a disregard for the life of innocents does not justify the other side doubling down on the same.

[–] samokosik@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 9 months ago

We can agree on that both sides should stop harming civilians. Just many people seem to forget the damage Hamas has done by radicalization of the whole population. Hence why you should never have your base underneath a hospital.