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How it feels to learn JS in ~~2016~~ 2023 (hackernoon.com)
submitted 11 months ago by ICastFist@programming.dev to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev
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I learned "pure" JS back in 2013, when HTML5 was brand new, and I still don't get most of the stuff going on nowadays.

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 13 points 11 months ago

The joke is that nearly everything these libraries/frameworks do is complicate what used to be simple

[-] delirium@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

All these things are solving different problems and you absolutely don't have to use them if they complicate your current workflow.

I can't imagine making a high interval trading app, things like notion or figma without modern libraries.

jQuery only gets you so far before you will wake up in unmaintainable hell where your team has to re-invent the wheel

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 8 points 11 months ago

You don't need any of that, not even jquery, to display static content, or even to make a decent commerce page (shopping, booking, tickets). I would wager the vast majority of the internet does not need to work like Figma or Notion (or old timey chatrooms, for that matter), with real time changes being sent to all connected sessions.

[-] LPThinker@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, that is true. But actually it’s more than that: you don’t need a dev to display static content or a decent commerce page anymore. Square space and it’s competitors give more options at a better value to the layman than devs using PHP or jQuery could hope to these days. We have the simple websites, so frameworks very specifically target productivity and maintainability for complex web apps.

[-] LPThinker@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is not true. The higher complexity of frameworks is unarguable, but it reflects the higher complexity of modern web apps. The reality is that React/Vue/Svelte achieve things that are simply infeasible with e.g. the LAMP stack or jQuery.

[-] akrz@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

well, they are theoretically feasible, but practically infeasible

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