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Jill Stein formally launches 2024 White House bid as Green party candidate
(www.theguardian.com)
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This is implying Jill Stein doesn’t know she is helping Republicans with her failed 3rd party run.
Girl is getting paid to help them for sure.
do you have some proof of that?
She had a successful career as a physician so no, you're making that up. Anyone who is saying she has money that's where it came from. You all have no evidence she's getting Russian money, it's pathetic.
You think "rich people don't do immoral things for money, because they're already rich" don't you?
No, they just have literally no evidence.
Sorry... are you saying that doctors all feel they're rich enough and don't ever lust for more money?
Where's your evidence?
My evidence of what? I asked if that's what you were saying.
Evidence that Jill Stein is taking money from Putin, it's a ridiculous claim with no evidence.
Please quote me making that claim.
Your white knight ass galloped in to defend that point
When did I defend anything? Please quote my defense. Unless you're lying of course. Are you lying?
LMAO you can't even troll effectively
I guess you were lying and rather than admit it, you've resorted to insults.
she's not helping republicans.
Pulling the environmentalist voters away from Biden doesn't help his opponents?
the greens are his opponent too. a vote for a green candidate doesn't help the republicans or the democrats.
And who do you think might consider voting for a Green candidate? Certainly not republicans. There is significant overlap between the democracy crowd and the environmentalism crowd. Thus, a significant chunk of green voters would otherwise be democratic voters.
then i guess the democrats better shift to capture some of them green voters if they want them.
That attitude is precisely why we were stuck with Trump from 2017-2020, and why the country is much worse off now because of it.
I voted for Gary Johnson is 2016 and let me tell you, I learned from my mistake. It seems you have yet to learn that lesson.
? you think the democrats should be able to enter office just because you don't like donald trump? fuck that. if they want my vote they better come and get it. i have an enumrable list.
The fact that you keep changing the subject demonstrates that you are not interested in arguing in good faith. The correct course of action is to vote in such a way that your vote influences the outcome positively. By voting for a 3rd party candidate, you are choosing to not influence the result, which is irresponsible.
I haven't changed the subject at all.
You changed the subject from preventing fascism to nitpicking democrats. That's called whataboutism. You imply that you have no legitimate counter-argument by taking attention away from the point that shatters your argument. A person in the right would have no need for such evasive tactics.
I'm not being evasive
it's not whataboutism
you can characterize my vote any way you like. I'll characterize yours as supporting genocide.
Don't pretend you care about genocide when you've clearly announced your plan to enable a known terrorist.
I have no plans to enable genocide. by contrast many in this thread have announced their plan to vote for biden
your accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith.
"No u" you're not digging yourself out of that hole
doubling down doesn't change the facts