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Women asked for this. No, they demanded it. Even if it came at the cost of making it harder for men to find jobs.
And what galaxy-brain take would you offer if it were a man in the photo with an identical caption?
Is it just me or does it smell like whataboutism in here?
Women DID fight for the right to be able to do this. That’s not a conspiracy theory. They insisted on it.
This person is just a dumb troll, I've seen and reported them on other posts. Everyone ignore please.
If you like comfortable echo chambers and rigorous banning of people you don't agree with, why don't you just stay on reddit?
That's not a novel or interesting idea. Having low grade shit shoveled onto the platform has no impact on "echo chambers".
Why don't you make an actual argument instead of calling mine "low grade shit"?
Just because you found what I said offensive doesn't make it any less true.
Because your statement really is low grade shit and you're obviously not interested in an actual discussion or debate.
Lol, you're giving yourself too much credit. I doubt anyone is offended by your shitheel low effort trolling. Don't confuse people calling out your stupidity with people being offended by your stupidity. You're not that clever.
"women fought for the right to work" may be a factual statement on its own, but it's entirely irrelevant to the context of the OP.
“I called your argument shit because it IS shit.”
Yeah, sorry, I don’t buy that. That’s like telling a battered woman you beat her because she deserved it.
You’re just excusing your own verbal abuse on the grounds that it was necessary because what I said has upset you, but you’re unable to articulate why.
Why do you think you upset anyone? Your initial statement was irrelevant and ignorant, but it didn't upset me in the slightest. I CAN articulate my thoughts, but it's pointless because you're not having a discussion in good faith as demonstrated by your responses to others who DID articulate why you're talking out your ass.
Because if I didn’t, there’d be no point in so many people spending the time and effort they did to make sure I regret posting that.
Yet no one has managed to prove me wrong, at best they’ve managed to convince me it was inappropriate because the woman in the OP wasn’t blaming the patriarchy for her situation.
But I’m sure you could have articulated that if you had wanted to, you just didn’t because it’s easier to insult people you disagree with than to have an actual argument with them.
People can call you a dumbass without being upset.
Well, by that reasoning I can also criticize women without being a troll or a misogynist.
responds to a basic meme that happens to be a picture of a woman by making a completely irrelevant comment that specifically criticizes women.
"guys I'm totally not a troll or a misogynist".
Responds to a factual comment that happens to criticize women by making a completely irrelevant accusation of it being "nonsensical" and "low grade shit".
"guys I'm totally not upset"
Women fought for equal rights - for being allowed to do the same things men were, without restriction. Have careers, live their own lives, be equal before the law, not be relegated to the role of housewife/childbearer by default and without being given a choice.
This meme is not about that. It's not even about women. It just happens to have a woman in the photo. This meme is about big businesses routinely and with impunity exploiting their workers. Nobody ever fought for the right to be exploited. Of course, I don't expect someone with a user name like PepeLivesMatter to understand that kind of nuance.
No, I do understand that nuance, and I appreciate your ability to explain it without resorting to name calling or insults.
You and others are upset not because what I said wasn’t true (it was), but because it’s something you’d rather not talk or even think about. Okay. Point taken. She did indeed not blame men for her situation, at least not directly, I will admit that. Although I’m sure there’s already a feminist somewhere waiting to explain to me how shareholder value is a tool of the patriarchy that was designed for no other purpose than to oppress women.
You're not digging yourself out of that hole out of your own making.
And no, I'm not upset about anything you said. Truth has nothing to do with it. What you said was nonsensical, baseless, and not very intelligent. B most people's standards, you're trolling. I've long gotten over being upset by trolls.
If you aren’t upset, why spend all this time and effort trying to make me regret what I said instead of simply proving me wrong?
If what I said was baseless and nonsensical, it would be easier and more effective to just disprove it rather than coming up with more and more insults to my intelligence instead.
Other people have at least managed to point out that they found it inappropriate because the OP wasn’t blaming men for her situation, to which I have agreed. Yet here you are still heaping abuse over my head and trying to convince me you’re not upset.
Sorry, but I’m not buying it.
I have explained where you're wrong, to the point that you thanked me for it in your previous post. But you still insist on being right. I can't help you with that, and am not going to either.
And yet you've replied to them in the same vein as you have to me: whining that you're right but being insulted.
If you'd care to point out which part of my response was 'heaping abuse over your head', then maybe we'd get somewhere. Then again, ask me how much I care. On second thought, don't. You'd just whine about the reply.
Wasn't selling anything. Go in peace, but go.
No, I thanked you for explaining it without name calling or insults. But then you felt the need to go right back to calling it baseless and unintelligent, thereby erasing any progress that was made.
You already admitted that what I said was true, why go back to insulting me for saying it, when I made you an offer of truce by accepting that it was uncalled for?
That was a factual statement, not an insult. But hey, if the shoe fits...
That is provably false. I have done no such thing. Take your gaslighting elsewhere.
This you?
https://feddit.de/comment/5069083
That's essentially what I said in my initial comment, nothing else. I didn't say they ought to go back to the stove or anything stupid like that. Just that having to go to work to provide shareholder value is part and parcel of making that choice. Men have to do it too.
No, that's what you wish you'd said. Your interpretation of your own words is as crooked as that of this meme.
Now go waste someone else's time, I'm done with you.
The only one's time I'm wasting is my own, it's your choice whether to continue to respond to me or not.
Who gives a shit. This meme is for everyone. Men, women, fucking everyone. Your idiot shit take is meaningless, is what I’m trying to say, because there was no intent to make it about women. You made it about women, and nobody fucking asked.
Okay, well, that explains why you're upset about it.
I think most people would still find freedom with downsides more desirable than a comfy cage.
Don't forget the domestic abuse!
The cage did not appear to be that comfy even.
Though situations were better in terms of wages. Once women entered the workforce they cut wages to account for that. Turns out they weren't paying an individual what they could get away with, they were paying a household what they could get away with.
That's not on women, though.
Not quite. They didn't cut wages, they just didn't raise them as fast, and it wasn't a conspiracy, but just the result of vastly more people entering the workforce. If you have more people competing for the same amount of jobs, you can get away with paying them less.