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EDIT: Submarine power transportation is indeed on the list

Not transoceanic, but there are two projects currently proposed that will -- when constructed -- break the current record for the "longest undersea power transmission cable" (a record currently held by the North Sea Link at 720 km, or 450 miles.)

One of these projects is the Xlinks Morocco-UK Power Project which aims to lay 3,800 km (2,400 miles) of cable and sell Morocco's solar power to England.

There is, as of yet, not enough cable in the world to even begin this project. The company proposing the project is building factories to produce this cable.

The other is the Australia-Asia Power Link, which aims to provide Australian solar power to Singapore using a 4,500 km (2,800 miles) undersea cable.

Where the Xlinks project ran into a "not enough cable in the world" problem, Sun Cable's AAPL has apparently been running into a "not enough money in the world" problem, as it has repeatedly gotten into trouble with its investors.

EDIT: But also, storage is scaling up

@ProfessorGumby@midwest.social provided a fantastic link to a lot of energy storage mediums that are already in use in various grids across the world. These include (and the link the professor provided gives an excellent short summary on each)

  • Pumped hydroelectric
  • Compressed Air Energy Storage (CAES)
  • Flywheels
  • Supercapacitors
  • And just plain batteries

Also, this wasn't in the Gumby's answer, but Finland's Vatajankoski power plant uses a hot sand battery during its high-demand, low-production hours.

Hydrogen is projected to grow

@Hypx@kbin.social noted that hydrogen has advantages no other energy storage medium possesses: duration of storage and ease of piping/shipping. This is probably why numerous governments are investing in hydrogen production, and why Wood Mackenzie projects what looks like a 200-fold increase in production by the year 2050. (It's a graph. I'm looking at a graph, so I am only estimating.)

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[–] ProfessorGumby@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably not. Energy storage is probably the better idea. Check out this link and scroll down to this sections on types of grid energy storage. https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-tech/sustainable/grid-energy-storage.htm

[–] OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh thanks for the link! This is a good one. According to the article we're already using:

  • Pumped hydroelectric
  • Compressed Air Energy Storage (CAES)
  • Flywheels
  • Supercapacitors
  • And just plain batteries

And the article ends with,

"The price of storage is coming down. The price of solving the problems in other ways is going up. Pretty soon, these prices are going to cross," notes Boyes, suggesting cost could spur the addition of storage to the grid.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are those storage measures being used at scale? IIRC there's large-scale battery storage in Australia, but I don't know what is being done elsewhere.

[–] OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I believe the article is arguing that we need to scale them up. Although: it mentions that the Tennessee Valley Authority already uses pumped hydroelectric storage at the foot of Raccoon Mountain (side-note, I know nothing about Tennessee, but somehow naming a mountain "Raccoon Mountain" confirms all of my stereotypes about the state), to supplement its grid during low-production hours.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago