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[–] t_jpeg@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I don't support Hamas just like you don't. I don't support the death of civilians, Israeli or Palestinian. What I have a problem with in the general sentiment of this thread is people acting as if the Israeli government's actions are not the cause of this war. Hamas would not exist if the Israeli government never oppressed Palestinian people first. The PLO wouldn't exist if the Israeli government didn't oppress Palestinian people first. Hamas killing innocent civilians wouldn't have happened if the Israeli govrnement never tried to genocide Palestinians. You can argue that Hamas would commit genocide if they could, but the fact is Israel is the one commiting genocide at the moment. Making out as if both need equal condemning (although they need condemning nonetheless) is equivalent to giving a bully the same punishment as the victim who fights back. They are simply not the same.

Fuck Hamas and fuck Israel. But especially fuck Israel.

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago

Making out as if both need equal condemning (although they need condemning nonetheless) is equivalent to giving a bully the same punishment as the victim who fights back.

If the victim fighting back is a punch to the face, I'd completely agree. But this victim fought back with excessive force and I can't ignore that either. I do agree that Isreal made their own bed. I've been yelling for years that all Israel is doing is recruiting more hamas members.

[–] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I bet you feel enlightened with your centrist take.

[–] t_jpeg@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Desire for Palestinian liberation can never be centrist, sorry.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Whatever crimes the Israeli government committed (and there are many), nothing justifies killing civilians who have nothing to do with them, and that goes for both sides. Fuck anyone who murders innocent civilians for any reason.

[–] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

the victim who fights back by... killing completely random innocent children. but i guess the instant that is over, it no longer happened.