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[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 227 points 7 months ago

Wanna get even angrier? Since the cease fire was agreed, Israel released 150 Palestinian people. In that time, they have also made 133 new arrests of Palestinians for the crime of…celebrating the release of Palestinians.

If this were done by a movie villain, people would criticize it for being too cartoonishly evil and unrealistic.

[-] NAXLAB@lemmy.world 46 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Imma need a hardcore source for this. Not because I doubt it, but because I'd like to include it in an essay

[-] Sparlock@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago

Aljazeera is the first thing to pop up. You can likely use it as a jumping off point.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/28/arrests

[-] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 33 points 7 months ago

It's the 'arrested for celebrating' part that we want a source for and I didn't see any in this article about it. Just seems very odd Israel would admit such a thing, so if they did I want a solid source to share with others.

[-] Sparlock@lemmy.world 55 points 7 months ago

You could literally use google and find lots of stories talking about it. Here is a snippet from just one.

THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT narrative surrounding the Palestinian prisoners being released during this temporary ceasefire is both insidious and dishonest. Interior Minister Itamar Ben Gvir has banned Palestinians from celebrating their release. “My instructions are clear: there are to be no expressions of joy,” he said. “Expressions of joy are equivalent to backing terrorism, victory celebrations give backing to those human scum, for those Nazis.” He told Israeli police to deploy an “iron fist” to enforce his edict. https://theintercept.com/2023/11/26/palestine-israel-prisoners/

That is pretty fuckin clear.

[-] MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works 42 points 7 months ago

My instructions are clear: there are to be no expressions of joy,” he said. “Expressions of joy are equivalent to backing terrorism"

Wow. That is cartoonishly dystopian.

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[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

And yet some are still defending it. The propaganda is strong.

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[-] thesilverpig@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

I didn't but I guess thanks for keeping me informed. Also distracts me from my problems which are minor in comparison.

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[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 158 points 7 months ago

Watch carefully when you hear and see coverage about this. The people Israel had were "prisoners" while the people hamas had were "hostages."

This kind of subtle reframing of words happens all the time.

CBS Nightly News had a story that talked about the 150% increase (don't quote me on the actual percentage) in antisemitism acts, but anti Muslim sentiments were just "on the rise."

It's a double standard depending on who they're talking about.

[-] bowser1035@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago

The one that I saw was early on, after Hamas attacked, the news reported the number of deaths from “the Hamas invasion”. After that, when Israel retaliated and started killing Palestinians, the news was reporting “the total number killed since the beginning of the Hamas invasion”. They lumped all of the deaths from both sides together and framed it as if they were all attributed to Hamas, even though Israel had killed several times as many people by that point.

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[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago

It's a double standard depending on who they're talking about.

Always has been, always.

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[-] FierroGamer@sh.itjust.works 145 points 7 months ago

I hate how people treat genocide and other crimes against humanity as a reason to take teams and treat it like "you're either with team a or team b".

Any comment here criticizing one thing is taken as approval of "the other team" and I personally find that horrendous.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago

In America, we citizens haven't had any significant question where we were presented with more than 2 options as long as i can remember.

Manufactured consent.

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[-] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 139 points 7 months ago

They rounded up another 150 as they released those 150.

[-] doctorcrimson 102 points 7 months ago

They actually have about 7,000 people in "administrative detention" which means people held without charges.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 51 points 7 months ago

And remember boys and girls, this is not "hostage taking" because - as the simpleton useful idiots never cease to repeat - "it's legal".

(Thinking people might start pondering on which laws in their own supposedly Democratic countries are moral and which are nothing more than the hypocritical abuse of "justice" to cover up abuses of power)

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[-] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 38 points 7 months ago

Of course we'll hear the "ThEyRe NoT cItIzEnS sO iTs NoT aPaRtHeId" argument

[-] ladicius@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago

It's pretty easy. They basically keep them in cages.

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 57 points 7 months ago

People who say they violated the laws here, don't understand what is mean to be apartheid state.

These state have laws and regulations that basically push groups of people until they leave the country or extents.

I would recommend reading more because any ruling party in your country can easily create laws to discriminate against a group of people that could be you.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Yup. I'll put this here for those that need the explanation:

Morals
Ethics
Laws

These often overlap but are fundamentally different things.

For instance, a country can be morally bankrupt, value a strong code of ethics, and have laws that have nothing to do with either.

Also, you often need to compare entire cultures before you can see problems with equivocating any of the three.

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[-] Cyo@lemmy.world 36 points 7 months ago

Israel became worse than Hamas. I'm not saying Hamas are the good guys, both sides have killed civilians.

[-] crackajack@reddthat.com 46 points 7 months ago

Yes. Israel had been sniping and bombing civilians alike all this time but no one batted an eye. But when Hamas conducted their own terrorist acts everyone lost their minds!

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[-] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's a settler colonial ethnostate lol. It's always been fundamentally fascist from the beginning.

And getting Jews out of Europe is doing exactly what the Nazis wanted.

The Imperialist countries, specially the US, have learnt nothing from history. They're literally funding a fascist genocide.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

Israel became worse than Hamas.

Have been since 1949. You know... long before Hamas even existed?

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