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Putin is urging women to have as many as 8 children after so many Russians died in his war with Ukraine (www.businessinsider.com)

submitted 11 months ago by Stamau123@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

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Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging Russians to have more children. 
"Large families must become the norm," Putin said in a speech Tuesday. 
Russian birth rates are falling amid war in Ukraine and a deepening economic crisis.

Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging women to have as many as eight children as the number of dead Russian soldiers continues to rise in his war with Ukraine, worsening the country's population crisis.

Addressing the World Russian People's Council in Moscow on Tuesday, Putin said the country must return to a time when large families were the norm.

"Many of our grandmothers and great-grandmothers, had seven, eight, or even more children," Putin said.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I have a friend who left Russia to get away from bullshit like the Order of Maternal Glory.

[–] jdrch@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

I'd have left too. This is insane.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Looked up. It is order of coutry that no longer exists. It is impossible to get one.

[–] Cinner@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Maybe not exactly, but... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Heroine

Mother Heroine (Russian: Мать-героиня, Mat'-geroinya) is an honorary title that was used in the Soviet Union and now Russia, awarded for bearing and raising a large family.

On 15 August 2022 Vladimir Putin signed a decree reviving the honorary title.[2]

Also Putins intent is to turn Russia back into the Soviet Union so it's not at all surprising he's re-using things like this.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Also Putins intent is to turn Russia back into the Soviet Union

You wish. Straight to fucking Russian Empire.

[–] OfficerBribe@lemm.ee -3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Do not really see a problem with this one. Don't most countries recognize families with X number of children and give some benefits? It doesn't immediately mean everyone starts having 10 children families.

[–] Cinner@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I know that in America they recognize it in the form of "thanks for the worker, here is financial assistance for diapers/food/etc if you meet under the poverty line of household income so your kids don't clog up our hospital system with your uninsured, diaper-rash-turned-infection starving children, and have some child care tax credits either way."**

In Sweden I think every newborn comes home with a huge box of diapers clothes formula if needed etc. And I think it's a monthly box for X number of months.

But large families aren't looked at as a status symbol like they're trying to make happen in Russia, and as it was in the Soviet Union. Literal Military Metals of Honor 3 levels deep for the amount of children you had (Level 1 was highest honor, level 3 was lowest).

**Except maybe for some certain sects of certain religions, like some of Catholicism and Mormonism. But that's for more messengers to spread the word of Jesus/Joseph Smith. That's all the frame of reference I have.

[–] OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Actual medal does seem weird, true. I think I have heard Finland having a similar care package, sounds pretty cool and probably the best option to first of all guarantee parents do not get a monetary allowance that could be spent elsewhere, booze for example.

Looked into my country laws and in Latvia you get a monthly allowance based on total count of children up to realistically 18 or 20 years (depends if you continue education)

one child - EUR 25 per month
two - EUR 100 per month (EUR 50 for each child);
three - EUR 225 per month (EUR 75 for each child);
four and more children - EUR 100 per month for each child.

If you have 3+ kids you also can get a card that has benefits / reduced cost for various services.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Lol no