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With the number of people concerned about privacy, it is a wonder why chrome is even popular.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

With the number of people concerned about privacy

Generous estimate there. "People" don't care. Who cares if your browser tracks your online presence when everything is connected back to your facebook profile or whatever is trending.

Most individuals embrace convenience above all; literally putting all their private stuff on any online service that tout "shiny feature that you won't even use". Even some privacy-focused people don't see putting all your emails/photo/video/agenda/chat/text messages in one third party opaque service as an issue.

Tons of business do the same, outsourcing the most basic stuff like private discussions and storage to anything "convenient" to not pay for two sysadmin to manage it (leading to most major leaks). I have direct experience of business coming to us, asking "yeah, privacy is good, data ownership and control is mandatory, so we won't host anything and you'll keep all our data, deal?". They prefer have us, a third party, bill them for hosting rather than have some control over it.

My take on this is that while pointing that browsers can be an issue is not a bad thing, the first step would be to get people and business interested in their privacy. Without that, it remains a niche. Sadly.

[–] Frostwolf@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It might be a niche yeah, but it won’t be when a lawsuit looms. It won’t be when Data Privacy Laws come knocking. People underestimate the value of privacy even though virtually any job has privacy as its most basic requirements. May it be medical records, banks, NDAs, contracts, even the most basic of tasks, has some form of privacy stipulations in it.

As someone pursuing a career in health care I became more and more concerned because some store patient files and notes in unsecured text files/apps like notion, google docs and even excel. I’m sure other jobs and employment has their own privacy issues as well.

Privacy is a niche at face value but so many people underestimate its value. When everything they say or store online and even offline can be hacked, tracked or exploited, anything can be a potential lawsuit without taking the necessary precautions.

[–] wazoobonkerbrain@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Privacy is an ideal but I don't agree that privacy laws are a looming threat to those who ignore them. Our right to privacy is being swept away at a rapid rate and there will be no repercussions for those who invade our privacy.

[–] Metallibus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

As someone pursuing a career in health care I became more and more concerned because some store patient files and notes in unsecured text files/apps like notion, google docs and even excel.

This is just the beginning - the medical space is notoriously awful and also a place where you probably really care about privacy. But using secure alternatives is too annoying for most medical staff and they just see it as ankther hurdle. Actually getting people to use secure software that's not the software they're already used to is way harder than it should be.

People just don't understand or don't care. Convenience is way more important to people than anything else.

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 2 points 1 year ago

All a for profit business truly cares about, by definition, is profit. Details like "data ownership" and "privacy" are just boxes to be ticked in the most cost effective manner possible. Have you seen how much a good sysadmin costs? Let alone 2? They don't care about the value of owning their own shit, that's too abstract of a concept.