UK Politics

3067 readers

100 users here now

General Discussion for politics in the UK.
Please don't post to both !uk_politics@feddit.uk and !unitedkingdom@feddit.uk .
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.

Posts should be related to UK-centric politics, and should be either a link to a reputable news source for news, or a text post on this community.

Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.

If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread. (These things should be publicly discussed)

Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.

Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.

!ukpolitics@lemm.ee appears to have vanished! We can still see cached content from this link, but goodbye I guess! :'(

founded 1 year ago

MODERATORS

tom@feddit.uk

GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk

flamingos@feddit.uk

Keir Starmer praises Margaret Thatcher for bringing ‘meaningful change’ to UK (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 11 months ago by GreyShuck@feddit.uk to c/uk_politics@feddit.uk

31 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Keir Starmer has praised Margaret Thatcher for effecting “meaningful change” in Britain in an article directly appealing to Conservative voters to switch to Labour.

Writing in the Sunday Telegraph, the Labour leader said Thatcher had “set loose our natural entrepreneurialism” during her time as prime minister.

“Across Britain, there are people who feel disillusioned, frustrated, angry, worried. Many of them have always voted Conservative but feel that their party has left them,” he said. “I understand that. I saw that with my own party and acted to fix it. But I also understand that many will still be uncertain about Labour. I ask them to take a look at us again.”

In the article, Starmer pointed to Labour prime ministers of the past – Tony Blair and Clement Attleee – as well as Thatcher, as examples of how politicians can effect meaningful change.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

He wants to govern. That’s always been done by attracting the center of politics.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes. Margaret fucking Thatcher. The center of politics.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 2 points 11 months ago

Ah, come on. We both know there's a large center of UK politics who think "well, say what you want about MT, at least she X", where X can be something about "had a plan", "won a war", "showed those old party bosses", "got rid of loss-making state businesses" etc.

I'm certainly not implying MT was at the center, merely that AT the center, some people have admiration for the Big Persons on both sides of the aisle.

[–] Kainsley@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Labour have already attracted the center of politics, this is an attempt to appeal to the right and will likely lose more votes than gain.

[–] yeah@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago

And if it does gain votes and the left coalition party is basically center and the Conservatives are going further right and there's no chance of PR. Just yuck.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I really don't think so.

At this point the Tories have done more to ensure labour victory than anyone else. I can't see how this could do anything other than bolster their votes.

Ok let's say that you're pulled by this who are you going to vote for instead the lib Dems? they have about as much chance of achieving power as whatever ukip are currently calling themselves.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ok let's say that you're pulled by this who are you going to vote for instead the lib Dems? they have about as much chance of achieving power as whatever ukip are currently calling themselves.

"What choice do you have?"

A compelling appeal to the voting public. How could that dampen turnout.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's called tactical voting in everyone knows about it it's not some secret conspiracy

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago

Tactical voting is what people do when they think a party is a lesser evil than another party. Having labour stand up and basically say "vote for Labour, we're not Tories... but don't worry Tories we will be continuing your policies" does not inspire a strong tactical voting block. As absurd and doomed as our 2 party voting system already is.