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submitted 7 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

The Supreme Court rarely hears tax cases, and tax cases rarely threaten to affect the public at large. Moore v. United States, to be argued tomorrow, is that rare exception. The case raises an issue at once beguilingly simple and oddly difficult: What does income mean?

This is a question with ramifications for virtually every area of American taxation; depending on how the Court answers it, Moore could produce a chaotic ruling that casts constitutional doubt on huge swaths of the tax system. But it’s also a question that the Court doesn’t need to answer, and one that it shouldn’t.

The issue teed up in Moore may be so intellectually stimulating that nobody seems to have noticed that the case has been fundamentally misframed.

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[-] TCGM@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago
[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 86 points 7 months ago

TL;DR the rich don't want the government taxing their assets, they want to keep taxes to money only so they can keep their "income" low and hide the rest.

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Regressive tax ftw!

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 12 points 7 months ago

Which they already can do anyway. This just paves the way to do it legally and in the open.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago

More literally, in Trump's such people tax break, there was added a tax on money invested overseas. The Moore's invested money overseas, but hadn't gotten a return on it yet, so they're saying that money isn't "income" which is what is taxable according to the 16th amendment.

So 100% rich people trying to protect their tax havens

[-] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Good summary, but that's a stupid argument (by the people making it). We already have all kinds of taxes that exist as fees for moving goods (tariffs) and even for moving money (e.g. a tax penalty if I withdraw early from my 401k).

It seems perfectly valid to have a tax/fee on moving money overseas to invest it. One might argue that's not "fair" for some reason (e.g. if the money is taxed in the other direction too), but it's certainly something the government has the power to do.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Our current Supreme Court isn't exactly respecting precedent in their judgements

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