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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 23 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Okay I'm out of the loop, why is iMessage on Android such a big deal? I know that images get compressed but it sounds like Google and Apple are finally working together to draw up a spec there. Besides that it's... A color difference?

[–] lotanis@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There's a massive cultural thing in the US about the iPhone being the preferred phone and if you don't have one it must be because you're too poor to afford one. Obviously this is a result of marketing and isn't universal but it is a surprisingly widely held view.

Given that, showing up in a group chat as a lone blue bubble marks you out as the inferior group member (in some people's eyes). It doesn't matter so much 1:1 but if there are 10 people the odd one out stands out.

[–] janguv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

The real issue here is that people in the US are tied to using SMS for real-time chat groups when so many better (and private, and well known) alternatives exist. Thankfully, in Europe, nobody so far as I know ever really uses SMS anymore – whether for single or group chats.

[–] snowe@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

Not really a thing. Google is trying to make it seem like there is, but I’ve never met a single person that has ever cared.

[–] verdare@beehaw.org 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Google and Apple are finally working together

I think this is the primary reason. Apple only announced working on RCS support very recently. Once that’s out, I don’t really see a place in the market for this.

And it isn’t just compressed images. MMS doesn’t support reactions, replies, typing indicators, or read receipts because it’s ancient. A proper, standardized replacement has been long overdue.

Granted, I’ve heard that RCS is currently heavily reliant on Google’s own servers, so it could be argued as to how “open” this really is.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

RCS protocol is open. The apps... not so much.

[–] verdare@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

I think the currently available apps not being free software is less important than the protocol being open, which is good. It allows for the possibility of FOSS clients in the future. My bigger concern at the moment is if most/all of the actual backend infrastructure is controlled by a single stakeholder.

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 8 points 11 months ago

It's not as big of a deal as people like to pretend it is

[–] evident5051@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The messages app also supports forwarding text messages to other devices.

We can even ignore the other features of iMessage. This adds a layer of convenience to those who use both iOS and Android.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Eh still, Android offers this, Windows you can do this with an android or an iphone I think, not a game changer personally

[–] evident5051@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes, but it works better for those whose main SIMs are on iPhones. I personally use BlueBubbles at the moment.