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[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Whatever you want to call it, version or service pack, the point is that you're going to need to be using a relatively recent one to get that free support.

[–] S410@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You do, in fact, need to accept support to benefit from it. Those releases are the support. Support = updates!

Sometimes people or companies retire their distros (e.g. Mandriva), or just do stupid decisions that piss of their users (CentOS) and force the users to switch to a different distro. This, however, is extremely rare. Microsoft do that on a schedule.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So update to Windows 11, then. This is how Microsoft has always operated, they're doing this on their usual schedule.

[–] S410@kbin.social -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can use Debian Sid, for example. That way, instead of waiting for a bunch of updates to install them as one big upgrade, you, basically, always have the last version. You don't get those big upgrades at all, this way.

That's not possible with Windows. Even if you were to install every update that comes out, you wouldn't end up with a system that's somewhere between Windows 10 and Windows 11. You're forced into a major upgrade.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And that's the way Windows' patches and updates have always worked. This isn't some amazing new twist that Microsoft has thrown at us. If I'd bought Windows 10 ten years ago, I would have bought it with the full knowledge that at some point it'll no longer be updatable without it turning into Windows 11.

If this is a fundamental obstacle to you then you should never have bought Windows in the first place. It's like buying a gasoline-powered car and then exclaiming "this is bullshit!" When it comes time to fill the tank.

[–] S410@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've, in fact, never purchased Windows willingly.

The only few times I (technically) did were with laptops and small form factor computers which were only available with it pre-installed.

This, honestly, should not be legal.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The guy I was originally responding to was talking about this being a reason to "switch" from Windows to Linux, suggesting that he had chosen Windows in the first place. That's the position I'm addressing, so I'm not sure why you're jumping in on this when it's not relevant to you. I've been trying to explain why this is the normal Windows experience and you were never interested in the normal Windows experience in the first place.

[–] S410@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

Well, to elaborate: I never purchashed Windows willingly. I mostly pirated it.

XP was the only Windows that was worth its money. Back then there was nothing better.
Seven was, too, best for its time, but it was still meh, compared to XP.

If it was possible, I would've never stopped using it.
If Windows was more like Linux, XP would've been still supported, even if by different people (like Mandriva is living on as OpenMandriva, or Gnome 2 as MATE).
But, no, we can't have nice things. Microsoft have to force their "upgrades".

Also: Almost everyone younger than 20-25 has grown up with Window 10. There's a ton people to whom the fact that Miscosoft kill off operating systems and force new, objectively worse ones is news.